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Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 12:01 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The fern I just bought is Dryopteris erythrosora. Aslo called autumn fern. Can it take ANY direct sun at all? Does anyone know. It has full shade most of the day but gets direct sun in the evening.

Angela

Nojazz - Kansas, Zone " 6"
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Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 12:22 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

This fern or any dryopteris can do well in sunny spots. As long as it has plenty of water it should be fine.

Galanthophile - Ann (Northern England), Zone "8"
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Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 11:03 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thank you so much. I was thinking I would have to move it but there is nowhere else it could go. I will keep it well watered. Thanks!!

Nojazz - Kansas, Zone " 6"
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Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 02:33 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Please forgive me, Galanthophile, for disagreeing.....

Kansas is much closer to Oklahoma City than it is to your beautiful England.

I have had wonderful success with Autumn Fern In Oklahoma City. They will grow beautifully here... and they will do the same in Kansas...

BUT...

I strongly advise you to plant them in one of three "light" conditions:
[1] morning sun only [sun-up to about 11:30AM]
[2] part shade [dappled light beneath a tree or, again, sun from sun-up to about 11AM]
[3] shade [not deep shade... but no direct sunlight]

Please read the Missouri Botanical Garden page for this plant before making a final siting decision:
|newurl{http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/plantfinder/Plant.asp?code=H750, MBG page for Autumn Fern}

John57 - Oklahoma, Zone "7a"
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Posted on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 02:07 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No problem, sounds perfectly good advice to me. I was just meaning that ferns don't have to be in shade all the time to do well ie they can cope with some sun. Thanks for clarifying!

Galanthophile - Ann (Northern England), Zone "8"
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Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 05:38 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Would this fern do ok in the UK?

Treelover - County Durham,UK, Zone "8/9"
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 02:59 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I always plant early morning or cool evenings when the sun is low. It can get pretty warm in the Kansas sun. I dont water when the sun is on my plants either. It does more harm than good.

Thanks for the advise. I have planted the ferns and they are all doing very well. Even the one on the end that gets a bit of sun. Should I move the one on the end before the heat of summer gets here?? It gets afternoon sun. Cant wait for them to get bigger though. Looking forward to it!!

Nojazz - Kansas, Zone " 6"
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:04 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Treelover wrote on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 05:38 pm:

Would this fern do ok in the UK?


Why not? I've got one and it does fine here.

Gardenfiend - Germany, Zone "7a"
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:12 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks GF,i'll look out for one

Treelover - County Durham,UK, Zone "8/9"
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:23 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mara gives good advice... even this Great Plains gardener thinks they would do well there. Check with Galanthophile though... she knows better information for gardeners in Great Britain than do I.

Yes, NoJazz, in Kansas I would avoid putting the fern in afternoon sun. It will look good for awhile... but sooner or later that sun will cook it into a crispy critter. Our summer sun is, strangely enough, more intense than the midsummer sun in Tucson, AZ. Move it now to a more sheltered spot and it should experience little transplant shock. Don't feed it with ANYTHING granular... preferably forever. A weak solution of Miracle-Gro or Peters during the spring growing season... something instantly soluble in water and well-balanced [containing micro as well as macro-nutrients.] Stop feeding during the heat of summer... but watch watering carefully.
You can grow ferns on the Great Plains with great success... as long as you understand THEIR cultural requirements and are willing to meet their needs.
Please understand that I want you to succeed... ferns are great fun in gardens... for people of all ages. The opinions I expressed above are nothing more than the approach I have taken, and continue to take. Best wishes with whichever method you employ.

John57 - Oklahoma, Zone "7a"
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:33 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

treelover, the autumn fern will do fine here, unless you really want to there is no need to feed.

Rowan57 - West Yorkshire, Zone "UK 8"
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:52 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey Rowan how you doing?

Treelover - County Durham,UK, Zone "8/9"
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 09:21 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thank you John. You probably saved the life of my fern. Summer is pretty intense here. That is why I was asking. I will find a new home for it. I have a few options. I will think it over and watch where the sun spends its time tomorrow. Then I will make my final decision.

Nojazz - Kansas, Zone " 6"

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