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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 04:24 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I wasn't able to find any info on this one online. It is very sweet and will fit beautifully in my trough. It is supposed to be 'easier' in that it is more heat tolerant than some of the floridae and japonica.

Sunnyday2day - Michigan, Zone "Zone 5"
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 03:25 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hiya Tanya,

I found in under Wharfdale Butterfly (with a h after the w). it says it is a smaller version of wharfdale ling. Yours looks a lovely healthy plant.

I have just started collecting primula allionii, they are very pretty primulas...mine have all finished flowering now though.

I'm sure it will be lovely in a trough.

Dee_b - West Midlands, Zone "7"
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 05:22 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Tell me a little about the soil you use, Dee? Also, what varieties do you have?

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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 06:40 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Tanya there was a few interesting threads in the primulas forum which you may find interesting.

It's nice to see some activity here as I think it will be a great addition to gardenbuddies.

I went to Stonecrop in Cold Spring, NY yesterday and have some pictures of their "pit houses" to post. I will try to do this later.

Terryk - NY, Zone "6"
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 07:18 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sunnyday2day wrote on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 05:22 am:

Tell me a little about the soil you use, Dee? Also, what varieties do you have?



Actually Tanya, I'm very much a novice..and wouldn't like to give you wrong information on soil. I'm hoping 'Cycnich', the guy who started the alpines forum and has posted in the primula forum, may pop in and give you some info on that.

What I use is a very high grit mix...over 50% grit, with John Innes compost and a small amount of peat. I don't think grit or J.I compost is available over there....and I don't know what alternatives you could use. (whatever your plant is growing in seems good).
Also we have lots of rain here and high humidity....which again, may require a different soil mix to what would suit your sunnier climes.
Hopefully, someone who grows them over there may pop into the thread to advise you what's best. Sorry to be so vague.

I've got quite a few varieties now, some of which are hybrids ( not sure which)
Agnes, Alexander, Amy, Andrew, Anna Griffith, Austen, Beryl, Chivalry, Cissie, Claude Flight, Crystal, Elizabeth Baker, Eureka, GFS 1984, Jane Nicholls, Joanna, Kermis, Mary Ann, Mary Berry, Neon, New Dawn, Stephen, Snowflake, Val.

All these plants I have bought recently, and they have all finished flowering now. ....just hope I can get them all through the summer.

Do you have other varieties yourself Tanya?

Dee_b - West Midlands, Zone "7"
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 11:23 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dee_b wrote on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 07:18 am:

Do you have other varieties yourself Tanya?


No, this is my first. I can talk to the man who owns Arrowhead Nursery. He seemed pretty helpful when I was there. I use cactus soil with potting soil (50-50)blended with well rotted horse manure and ground granite (chicken grit.) I'm hoping this will work well as it's what I've used with other items in the trough. Thyme has planted itself in there as well and will have to be removed yet. I will look yours up a little later today.. bet they're gorgeous.

Sunnyday2day - Michigan, Zone "Zone 5"
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 02:24 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dee_b wrote on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 07:18 am:

I'm hoping 'Cycnich', the guy who started the alpines forum and has posted in the primula forum, may pop in and give you some info on that.


Hello Tanya. Wharfdale Butterfly is one of a series that come under the Wharfdale name. I am pretty sure it is an allionii hybrid, the shiny leaves with serrated tips are a giveaway.I have been growing these types of primulas for 20 or more years and the most important thing is drainage. It depends on what materials are available to you but as long as you end up with 80% drainage in the mix by using grit and perlite or other such things and 20% compost they will be fine. Where they grow in the wild there is little or no soil and the drainage is acute. They need to be grown hard, if you spoil them you will get lots of lush leaves but few flowers.

Cycnich - west sussex, Zone "8"
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 03:33 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thank you for sharing that info Pat. I'm sure it will be of interest and help to Tanya.

Tanya, perhaps you could show us a photo of the plant when it's in the trough.

Dee_b - West Midlands, Zone "7"
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Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 09:14 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dee_b wrote on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 03:33 pm:

Thank you for sharing that info Pat. I'm sure it will be of interest and help to Tanya.
Thanks so much, Pat. I think I was on the right track then. :)

Tanya, perhaps you could show us a photo of the plant when it's in the trough.


When it looks nice and pretty once again, I'll post a pic. I would like to add a couple others as well. :)

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Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 04:57 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

As I mentioned, the trough was loaded with thyme so I had to totally empty it and start over. It's surprising how deep the thyme roots were. I don't know what I'll be adding but.. fun to anticipate.


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Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 03:44 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Very nice Tanya.it reminds me a little of Pinguicula,an insectivorous primula relation.

Treelover - County Durham,UK, Zone "8/9"

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