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Cycnich
| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 12:23 pm EST : |   |
I have recently returned from 11 days in Corfu where I was fortunate to be part of a 3 man team sent there by the society to study Cyclamen Hederifolium on the island. The other members of the team were Melvyn Jope and Peter Moore. I won't go into too much detail as it would spoil the article which will appear in the societies December journal. Suffice it to say that we saw hundreds of thousands of Cyclamen and the trip was a great success in terms of the data and plant material collected. Here are a few pictures for you to enjoy.
Ancient olive grove
Mountain scenery
Selection of leaves for pressing
Selection of flowers for pressing
Doing the field work
Cycnich
- west sussex,
Zone "?"
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Terryk
 Supporting Member
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| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 12:34 pm EST : | |
Welcome to gardenbuddies Pat, it's great to have another expert on board.
Thanks for sharing those photos of the trip. Not everyone from this forum is a society member. Perhaps after the cyclamen society journal goes out, you will share a bit more information with us here-such as any new findings, or highlights of the trip. I'm a member but know the others would appreciate it.
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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Terryk
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| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 12:47 pm EST : | |
Pat are you the member with the large collection of graecum which Tim Murphy mentioned in another post?
If so, we hope to see some of your collection soon (or for that matter, to see whatever cyclamen you are growing).
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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Dee_b
| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 12:58 pm EST : | |
What lovely pictures Pat. I adore the Greek islands and although I have seen hederifolium there many times, it is usually only the flowers in September and the occasional leaf in May. Those are lovely leaf patterns. Look forward to reading about the trip in the next journal.}
Dee_b
- West Midlands,
Zone "7"
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Cycnich
| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 01:08 pm EST : | |
Terryk
Yes I do grow a lot of Graecum, around 80% of my plants are Graecum, but you will have to bear with me as I am in the process of buying a digital camera at last and once I am familier with it I will post some pictures of the leaves at least and I will expand the information on the Corfu trip in the new year.
Cycnich
- west sussex,
Zone "?"
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Tim
| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 01:15 pm EST : | |
Yeah Terry, Pat is the committee member I was referring to.
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Hi Dee, you've finally posted! I hope that you and Pat become regulars here.
Glad to hear you had a good time on Corfu, Pat. I have a couple of Helleborus odorus I collected there in 2001 in flower right now. I've only ever seen hederifolium flowering there once though; in late May 1999, so an out of season flower.
Tim
- Cambridgeshire,
Zone "7 "
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Tim
| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 01:16 pm EST : | |
I need to be quicker on the keyboard; Pat beat me to it :-)
Tim
- Cambridgeshire,
Zone "7 "
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Terryk
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| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 04:36 pm EST : | |
A digital camera is a must these days Pat. Once you get the hang of it, you will wonder how you did without it.
Welcome to gardenbuddies Dee. I see your a hellebore person also, you will enjoy that forum too. It gets more active as the season is in full swing. We're a bit more active here as some species is usually in bloom/active growth and we love them all. Do you have a special species that you grow?
Like Tim says, we hope you will be regulars.
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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Terryk
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| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 04:38 pm EST : | |
By the way Tim will you be posting pictures of your Helleborus odorus that are in bloom now in the hellebore forum (or did you do that already and I'm typing before I read the rest of gb?)
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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Dee_b
| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 04:49 pm EST : | |
Thanks Terry, I have always liked the hybrid hellebores. I live near to Ashwood Nurseries and have always loved theirs, but lately I have been swayed towards the species...I've recently had some plants from Tim and as you can imagine they are gorgeous. Some of the hybrid hellebores are flowering in my garden already...most unusual.
Dee_b
- West Midlands,
Zone "7"
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Terryk
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| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 06:09 pm EST : | |
I thought Tim was the one who swayed you Dee. He's done the same here. Hybridus in bloom now?
I am going to be visiting Tim and Susan and will be in for the February Wisley cyclamen show. Maybe we'll get to meet.
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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Tony_willis
| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 06:27 pm EST : | |
Pat I may have it wrong but it is interesting that the hederifolium were growing in the olive groves as I have never found them out in the open,always in shade. Or is that graecum in the third picture ?
Tony_willis
- Lancashire,
Zone "7"
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Cycnich
| | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 10:29 am EST : | |
| Tony_willis wrote on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 07:33 pm:
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Most of the populations were growing in shade of some degree although we did see superb sites where the plants were in full sun where olives had been cleared. These were flowering very well, better in fact than those in shade. Corfu has a very high rainfall and this may compensate for the lack of shade to some degree. I doubt if they would survive in the hotter, drier islands like Crete for instance. Although there were suitable habitats Cyclamen Graecum does not grow on Corfu.
Cycnich
- west sussex,
Zone "?"
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Tony_willis
| | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 02:39 pm EST : | |
Pat
I am an idiot,I know graecum does not grow on Corfu,I was mixing my islands up and was thinking of Crete.Still interesting though because I have seen hederifolium in many locations and they have always had a high degree of shade with a lot of moisture. As you say Corfu gets good rainfall and I understand that at the nearby Dalmation coast it is the highest in Europe.
Tony_willis
- Lancashire,
Zone "7"
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Guff
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 05:42 pm EST : | |
Curious about the netting. Is that placed over the cyclamen or over something else that is growing?
Guff
- NY,
Zone "?"
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Cycnich
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 11:34 am EST : | |
| Guff wrote on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 06:48 pm:
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The netting is spread out to collect the olives as they fall.This does not affect the cyclamen as they can grow through it.
Cycnich
- west sussex,
Zone "?"
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Galanthophile
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| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 03:18 pm EST : | |
What a fantastic setting. Looks like it was a very worthwhile trip. Looking forward to hearing more from you :)
Galanthophile
- Ann (Northern England),
Zone "8"
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Carol23
Supporting Member
| | Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 07:17 pm EST : | |
Pat, I love those leaves from Corfu!
Here's my only plant with origins from there.
How hardy are plants grown from seed collected in Corfu? I've heard differing opinions so would like to know if anyone has grown them in the garden in zone 6? Would one hand pollinate to keep this true? Seedlings I've grown have leaves quite different than the parent.
Carol23
- Southeastern PA,
Zone "6B"
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Cycnich
| | Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 07:24 am EST : | |
| Carol23 wrote on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 08:23 pm:
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Carol. I can just make out the word Paleokastritsa on your label which is at sea level on the west coast of the island. Hederifolium is pretty tough and even plants from there would be hardy in most situations, you may get damage to the leaves from frost but I am pretty sure the plant would survive. If you want to hand polinate then the plant would need to be isolated before it came into flower and until it has set seed but even this method would still yield a good variation in leaf patterns. You may have noticed that your plant is scented as are all plants from this island.
Cycnich
- west sussex,
Zone "?"
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Tim
| | Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 07:31 am EST : | |
I wrote that label out six years ago... I've got plants here grown from the same batch of seed I collected back in May 2001 and they are all scented.
Did you go to that site at Paleokastritsa, Pat? There's a lot of interesting plants there, whereas at some of the other places (Pelekas comes to mind), it's the opposite with a lot of the plants having very boring leaf patterns.
Tim
- Cambridgeshire,
Zone "7 "
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