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Author Message   Guff  Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 06:48 pm EST :    Where can I purchase cyclamen seeds, in large volume, 500+ seeds at a good price. Also how many seeds are produced per flower? Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Terryk  My Weather My Time Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 08:52 pm EST :    Guff, welcome to gardenbuddies and the cyclamen forum. Tim Murphy (knows as "Tim"), a fellow gardenbuddy will be selling seed come June. Here is his contact, but you can also reach him through gardenbuddies. I am not sure if you can get seed now from either of these sources. TIM MURPHY - HELLEBORE & CYCLAMEN SPECIALIST 5 School Road, Broughton, Cambridgeshire, PE28 3AT, UK. Tel - (0044) (0) 1487 822900 I am not sure what volume Tim will have, or his prices but he is an excellent garden friend with a great deal of knowledge of hellebores and cyclamen and very willing to share this knowledge. I have posted seed sowing instructions here that were Tim's. I had much success and his technique was so much easier than what you find on the cyclamen society web page. Another source in NY is Seneca Hill Perennials but again, they do not have them till summer. Ellen's seeds germinated very well. Here is her website http://www.senecahill.com/ Last, are you sure you have the room to grow all the seeds on once they germinate? I am learning that cyclamen germinate very well and so I am in the process of trying to find the room to grow them on. Good luck in your search. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Gardenbug  Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 09:14 pm EST :    T&M seeds just sent me a catalogue full of different cyclamen seeds. Try this! http://seeds.thompson-morgan.com/us/en/list/full-index/c/20 Gardenbug Ontario zone 4b/5b   Guff  Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 09:25 pm EST :    thanks for the info. I tried senecahills, their sold out of seeds. I will have to purchase 20-25 seed packets, seem expensive $3.50-4.00 for 20-25 seeds, so what I wondering is how many seeds do you get from each pod-flower when you go to harvest them. Is that why they are so expensive not many seeds are produced? I plan on growing hundred or so this year and in a couple years have thousands to make that picture perfect cyclamen field, this will be my first try at cyclamen.Do they multiply fast, or do you need to go from seed to make more plants. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Terryk  My Weather My Time Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 07:26 am EST :    Guff, I am not sure how fast they multiply or how much seed to expect from your established plants. If you are only planning on growing 100 plants to start, you don't need 500+ seeds. You will get a high percentage of seed germinating. At least this is my limited experience as they are new to me. I think if you are patient, you will get more feedback from either Tim after the weekend (I know he is very busy till then) or David_b. Seneca Hills only has seed at the end of summer because it is fresh seed. I thought the price was pretty good because most perennial seeds are about that price for far less seeds. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Gardenbug  Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 12:07 pm EST :    Guff, I get few seeds from each plant. Certainly nothing like poppies! As for how much they multiply, that depends on which kind you have I think. In NY state, I would guess it is much like here, that the cyclamen hederifolium would grow best. Terry is right. For a hundred plants you need only slightly more than 100 seeds. You will get very good germination I think. I wish that the nurseries here would sell the plants. Things like cyclamen and snowdrops I would think would be big money makers! I'd certainly love to buy them already established. But all we see are crocuses and daffodils in our shops. Gardenbug Ontario zone 4b/5b   Terryk  My Weather My Time Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 12:37 pm EST :    Marie, Seneca Hill does sell plants but naturally they are more expensive. I am not sure if she will send to Canada, but a quick e-mail will let you know. Ellen is very good about getting back to you. Guff, I am not sure I made it clear that Tim's seeds germinate very well also. You should try contacting him, but again, you may have to wait as fresh seed may not be available at this time or he may have run out like Seneca Hill. You can also go on cyclamen society web site, I believe they list sources for plants and seed both. By the way, where in NY are you located? Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Valia  My Favorite Photo My Garden Journal My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 12:49 pm EST :    Marie -- the Wal-Marts around here sell little blooming cyclamen plants in December every year -- two sizes -- $2.99 and $3.99. Anne, Washington State, Zone 5   Guff  Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 05:37 pm EST :    thanks for info, I just picked up 100 hardy C. hederifolium seeds for $10 at http://daylily.com They have all kinds of stuff there also Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Terryk  My Weather My Time Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 07:59 pm EST :    Well good luck with them, glad things worked out. Keep us informed as to how they germinate. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Guff  Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 03:26 pm EST :    How many flowers does each cyclamen plant make. Or is it one plant one flower? Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Terryk  My Weather My Time Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 03:43 pm EST :    Here is the cyclamen web site, you can read about the different species. http://www.cyclamen.org/indexCS.html You should get many flowers from each plant, it just is going to take time for the plants to mature enough to set flowers, but that is normal for most perennials. Marie has been lucky and has flowers after starting seed a year ago. After you start to get germination, you may find that the variation of the foliage is so nice that the wait for the flowers is easier to deal with. There is a book written on cyclamen that has just been updated. "Cyclamen: A Guide for Gardeners, Horticulturists and Botanists" by C. Grey-Wilson, Christopher Grey-Wilson. Maybe you can get a copy from your library. I just ordered it from amazon.com Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Guff  Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 02:39 pm EST :    I received my 100 seeds, they sure are weird looking, all different shapes and sizes. I'm going to try germing these within the next week. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Valia  My Favorite Photo My Garden Journal My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 09:40 am EST :    Soaking the seeds overnight seems to really speed things up, though it makes them harder to handle. Anne, Washington State, Zone 5   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 09:49 am EST :    Mine were not too odd looking, flat and light brown. I soaked them but don't remember them being hard to handle. Most important thing is to keep them at the recommended temp of about 60F and somewhat dark not in light. If the temp is too high they won't germinate and too low same thing. Good luck and let us know how you do Terryk - NY, Zone "6"

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