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Author Message   Guff  Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 05:52 pm EST :    I have a question about the pink/white colored ball/bulb that is formed. Should it be covered or it it ok to have that on the surface. I noticed that the seed, that I put under the soil to germinate, is now the top of the growing tip? Looks like the seed anyways. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Barb_i  Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 07:13 pm EST :    The seed coat often hangs on to the first leaves or cotyledons. That is the case with many kinds of plant sprouts. When I planted my cyclamen sprouts into individual pots I put the new little corms under the surface. I'm new at growing these from seed, though. Barb_i - British Columbia, Zone "7"   Guff  Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 07:47 pm EST :    Well I have 13 showing now. There are a couple with green growing tip, and I have a couple that have the seed coat still on. Do I need to keep those seed coats moist? I know if you leave seedling with the seed coat, it will die, atleast thats what I have noticed anyways. Or is it ok for that to dry out(seed coat) and the plant still live? Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Tim  Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 02:14 am EST :    Tear off tiny bits of tissue, wet them and wrap around the attached seed coat. Leave for half an hour or so, and you'll find that at least some of the seed coats are soft enough to remove with a fingernail (or tweezers) VERY carefully. Works for me. Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 (ish)"   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 06:43 am EST :    Great tip Tim. I have found some of my seeds doing the same thing, I'll have to give this a try. Do you find that it effects the life of the plant if it is not removed? Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Tim  Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 07:02 am EST :    I've never done any experiments on this, but I would imagine it it quite likely the seedling could die. Hellebore seedings often germinate with the seed coat attached too, but aren't affected so much as they (especially hybrids) produce a true leaf not long after germination. Cyclamen on the other hand, take a bit longer to produce that first true leaf. I think that the seedlings need a seed leaf to get a good start. Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 (ish)"   Guff  Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 11:33 am EST :    I will try using cotton cutip/ball. Seems one of my seedlings grow tip must have broken off when emerging from the soil. Will the coum/bulb put up another shoot? Or is this plant going to die? Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Valia  My Favorite Photo My Garden Journal My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 11:33 am EST :    I've been too busy to post much detail - will catch up in my journal soon -- but I noticed 2 days ago that a seedling I've been worried about because the husk was still stuck to the cotyledon after more than a month had sprouted a leaf from near the base! The leaf was quite large already. I must have overlooked it before because I was so focused on that worrisome husk. I had just about given up on this seedling, but now it may turn out to be the first one with true leaves. I'll take a pic when I get the chance. Anne, Washington State, Zone 5   Guff  Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 12:18 pm EST :    So the ones that have the seed coat on will still be ok and live? I have three that came up that have the grow tip broken off, I take it these will be ok as well? Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Valia  My Favorite Photo My Garden Journal My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 12:37 pm EST :    I wouldn't guarantee them, Guff, but I certainly wouldn't toss them away, either. This is my first experience with growing cyclamen from seed, so I am just learning. I had three "stuck" seed heads. Now two have leaves and the third has one of those corms or leaf buds at the base, which has a little nubby stem sticking out of it. I would say, yes, they will be OK. It will be interesting to compare their progress with the others. Anne, Washington State, Zone 5   Guff  Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 07:12 pm EST :    I am up to 33 seedlings so far, I bet I have alot just under the grit that I cant see yet. Any one know what causes the grow tip to break off, was the soil(seed) to wet and it rotted, or not wet enough and it just broke coming to the surface? Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Valia  My Favorite Photo My Garden Journal My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 10:33 am EST :    Here are two photos of leaves forming after the original leaf died: On the second one, you can see the dead leaf lying on the soil. Anne, Washington State, Zone 5   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 12:11 pm EST :    Good for you Anne. I held onto some pots that had the seed leaf die, hoping that something would sprout at some point. I won't give up. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Guff  Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 06:29 pm EST :    Update My seedlings that had the grow tip break off, are putting up another leaf shoot. I had 5-6 do this, I think I had it too wet and the grow tip in the seed, rotted. I have well over 45 now, maybe more still under the grit that I can't see yet. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 05:56 am EST :    Well congratulations Guff! As you start to get a pot full you can start to transplant them and then your fun begins! I don't think you want to water too much (and I think this is where our lack of experience makes it difficult) as you will loose the whole thing! What have you thought of all of Tim's pictures? He is our expert here on the forum, and as you can see he has quite a collection. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"

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