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Author Message   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 08:40 pm EST :    Hi Guff, sorry I missed your post of August 15. In answer to your question on the c. purpurascens, I can't tell you when I got germination on that one. I was able to locate one e-mail from my beginning days of corresponding with Tim and he mentioned it is erratic. I can tell you Tim mentioned to hang onto these pots for a second year as they can germinate erratically. I just had some germination from seed sown last year-so it proves his point! Yes Ellen, from Seneca Hills can be very generous I found I had double the order I asked for last year. So instead of 100 coum and 100 hederifolium, I had 200 of each! Then I received my generous packets from Tim too, so that's how I landed up with so many pots. All I can say is label, label and label some more when you start to transplant them into separate pots. This was such a major mistake on my part and now I am left to wait and see as the some come out of dormancy. Now onto your last post, my goodness if that is a flower, I am going to be green with envy! Only kidding, but you will have to share your secrets! Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Guff  Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 11:07 pm EST :    I can see how having many different types of cyclamen growing starting/transplanting can become a problem. I think thats one reason why I'm sticking to the Hederifolium and not trying C. Coum. Is Purpurascens fall flowering? I like the looks of Purpurascens and with the scent as a bonus what more could you want. Are the flowers of Purpurascens just pink or are they white as well? Seneca Hills doesn't give you an option with color choice so I am wondering. Just curious Can you mix Hederifolium and Purpurascens into the same garden plot, or will one take over? Can you mix Coum and Hederiflium into the same garden plot, or will one take over? Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 05:17 am EST :    Guff, if you want to separate your pink from white hederifolium, label your pots, otherwise if you will be mixing, I guess it will not matter. I find I come up with an idea later, so even if you are not thinking of it now, labeling them with as much detail on the label will help. C. purpurascens actually starts blooming a bit earlier than c. hederifolium but it is an autumn one. You should put this in a spot that does have more shade and they need more moisture than others, but again not wet. As far as color goes, they come in pink and white. C. hederifolium can take a bit more sun. I think you can mix c. purpurascens together with c. hederifolium (Tim correct me if I am wrong here) but not with c. coum. My book says that the c. coum will be overwhelmed by c. hederifolium. From my experience so far the c. coum are more delicate. Tim also advised that if you mix c. hederifolium in spots that have perennials such as hellebores, in time you will not see them because the foliage of the perennials will block out the view. Keep us posted should that plant above flower. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Guff  Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 06:52 pm EST :    When I plant the Hederifolium fall 2006, hopefully there are some flowers, then I can place them. I will be mixing the white and pink together in the same plot, like the pictures Seneca Hills had in their magazine article about cyclamen. The ones I start next month or so I will label. I may start C. Purpurascens this coming week, since they germ whenever. I kinda like the C. Purpurascens a little more then the Hederifolium,now that I looked at some past threads. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Guff  Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 11:11 am EST :    I thought I would post a couple pictures of all my cyclamen. Some pots have 2, 3 and one has 4 small plants in them. The bigger cyclamen I had put 1 to a pot. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Guff  Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 04:39 pm EST :    Here are a couple pictures that I had run across while doing some searching. Thought I would share, what we all want one day. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 10:40 am EST :    I would love to have a drift of cyclamen like those in the second picture. I like the natural look. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Guff  Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:15 am EST :    I wonder where the first picture was taken. I also wonder if they are hardy or indoor ones. I really like how they put the display all together, all the different shades of pink/purple so pretty. I may do something like that with mine, have pink shades on the outer, and have a circle or some shape/form of white in the center, maybe a star shape of white. I may just mix them all together, I have a year to decide...... Heres another picture I found, since you like the nature look, thought I would post it. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 07:22 pm EST :    That's great too Guff. I was going through a catalog (fairweathergardens.com) and they have a witchhazel that blooms in October/November. I am thinking of this with c. hederifolium around it. I would imagine it could be a very nice combo. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Guff  Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 09:13 pm EST :    I had thought about if I was growing C. Coum I would plant some in and around Lilac's. Maybe down the road when I have a lot of Hederifolium and C. Purpurascens, I will try the C. Coum. Next year for seed I will be just purchasing C. Purpurascens, I figure I will have enough of the Hederifolium growing, then the following year when they produce seed, I will grow more. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 09:26 pm EST :    You are smart, this way you don't have to worry so much about labels-one species per year takes care of that problem. I am not able to have that type of control. I am the person that wants it all and wants it now! Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Tim  Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 06:08 am EST :    Fantastic photos, Guff. The plants in the first photo are persicum cultivars - what you and I would grow indoors. Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "   Guff  Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2005 - 09:41 pm EST :    Sorry if anyone had read this post(before I edited it), I have taken care of it by Private Message. Tim how hardy are C. Graecum? Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Tim  Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 12:36 am EST :    Hi Guff. I don't think C. graecum would do well outside for you at all. It's not quite as fragile as widely thought though - can be grown outside here in the UK, in a sheltered spot. I used to have some plants outside the back door of our previous house, right up against (touching it!) the wall of the house. They were in a south facing position, and did OK for the three years they were there. Never saw many flowers at all, but they did grow. There are C. graecum growing outside on and around the rock garden at the RHS flagship garden at Wisley, but it's more mild there than where I live. I don't think graecum would ever do really well outside for me (meaning lots of flowers), wherever I planted it. You are quite a bit colder than here. I know you have much more snow cover, but I don't think that would help at all. I think it would be just too cold for graecum. Not all that quick from seed to flower either - three years minimum in my experience, four years normal. Would be a shame to grow plants for that long only to lose them. If you have a few plants, might be worth an experiment, somewhere sheltered next to the house I suppose. Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "   Guff  Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 09:43 am EST :    Tim, thanks for all the information on C. Graecum. I was just curious about them. I had noticed that Seneca Hills had them listed and had thought maybe they were as hardy as C. Coum, Hederifolium and Purpurascens. I'm more interested in outdoor hardy ones, maybe down the road I will try, maybe even just purchase a coum or two of the indoor ones. Since they take 4 years to flower, I might be better off just buying a 2-3 year old plants, instead of trying by seed. Guff - NY, Zone "?"

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