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Author Message   Galanthophile  My Favorite Photo My Garden Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 12:51 am EST :    Looks like you are going to be very busy! Galanthophile - Ann (Northern England), Zone "8"   Tim  Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 01:10 am EST :    Do you plan to plant the purpurascens outside eventually, Guff? I don't think you've made reference to the exposure of your hederifolium bed, Guff. Is it in full shade, partial shade, etc.? Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "   Guff  Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 07:25 am EST :    The first bed is in shady spot most of the day. For about 1-2 hour in the morning, it gets full sun, as the sun passes over the tree tops. The second bed is more full shade, much darker spot. No direct sun. The purpurascens will be put outside next fall, may save a couple to keep indoors. Only having a few of them, I don't want to chance planting them out now. Also, I was hoping to have a flower pop up. One of my Victoria's, not sure what you even call it, flower stem?, anyways all the growth(flowers/leaves) broke off. So now all I see is the corm with no grow tips. I will post a picture later. Had heavy rains, and the weight of the leave made the stem break off. Tim, I was reading on another site, while I was searching for info. It said that you can dig and divide cyclamen every 4-5 years? Do cyclamen corms divide, like crocus and daffodils? Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Tim  Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 01:55 pm EST :    No they don't, Guff. Cyclamen tubers don't multiply like that. You can cut tubers in half, or into three or four pieces if you have a nice plant that you want more of, but most growers don't bother. Perhaps what that site means is you can lift and spread out the tubers, as you would probably have self seeded plants which might crowd the established plants. Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "   Guff  Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 10:39 am EST :    I soaked my Purpurascens seeds over night Saturday, and Sunday I potted them up. I had a little over 120 seeds total. I put down a layer of sand, it's makes it easier to see the seeds as I placed them. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Guff  Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 10:25 pm EST :    I was thinking about adding some snow crocus to my first cyclamen bed. Placing crocus between each row and plants. Just one bulb between each plant, so it has some spring color. Would this be a bad idea? Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Tim  Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 11:44 pm EST :    Not a bad idea at all, Guff. My only concern is that it might look a little regimented and not random or natural, but I guess that depends on what kind of effect you are trying to achieve. Planting crocus in amongst the cyclamen certainly won't hurt the latter - they are companion plants in the wild. Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 04:21 am EST :    I agree with Tim that they would look better if not planted one between each cyclamen. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Guff  Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 06:24 pm EST :    Mainly just wanted to add some color to the bed in the spring. Since I am getting a bunch of snow crocus bulbs soon, I figured that I wouldn't have to do any digging if I put them in the bed. A pencil would work making the holes. Tim, I was wondering, how think of a layer of pine needles should be put down. I will be collecting different kinds, and shapes. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Guff  Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 02:43 pm EST :    It just stopped raining here, so I ran out and snapped a couple pictures. First picture is a top down view, from about the same spot that I have posted before. The other three pictures are of some that I thought had interesting leaves. You can see all the worm castings powder that I sprinkled around. I wasn't too crazy on the sand look. The casting help it look alot better anyways, and I'm sure the cyclamen enjoy the feeding after every rain. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Galanthophile  My Favorite Photo My Garden Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 03:27 am EST :    You have a nice mixture of leaf patterns there. Looking good! Galanthophile - Ann (Northern England), Zone "8"   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 06:23 am EST :    Guff are those the same tubers you showed us recently when you first planted this season? They are really taking off! I find that hederifolium have great leaf variation and make them very interesting for that alone. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Guff  Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 10:09 am EST :    Galanthophile, thanks. I think I have only two plants that have leaves like in picture 3. I do like the silver one alot in picture 2. TerryK, yes same spot that I have posted before. I thought the same thing, that they have really taken off. There are a lot with 7-8 grow tips. I can not tell you how happy I'm am with their progress. I just hope they make it through the winter. I think it's going to be amazing, hopefully next fall Maybe all the leaf compost that I put down, they really like it. I really think the sand helps alot. I noticed that when I was doing seeds, it seemed the ones that did best had a layer of grit under the corm, and weren't directly sitting on the soil. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 10:14 am EST :    Now I am worried about my bed. I hope I amended it enough. I hope it makes it this time around. Coum have been put in place of the hederifolium. Keep us updated as to how they do ok Guff? Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Guff  Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 12:26 pm EST :    TerryK, sorry to hear about your hederifolium bed. Who knows, maybe my sand experiment won't work and they will rot in the winter, I hope not. I guess its a learning process. Others can read the cyclamen threads here, and try not to make the same mistakes. I only have two corms that made it on my first attempt from seed. I didn't place any sand/grit under the corm when I transplanted. When I brought them back indoors, they went dormant. I wasn't watching them too closely, and they rotted. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Guff  Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 12:40 pm EST :    TerryK, you could pickup a bag of sand, and try to put a layer under and around each corm. Sand drys out fast, so I would think it would help keep the corms from rotting. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 01:14 pm EST :    Thanks Guff, now for the big question... What type sand do you buy? I seem to be mentally challenged on this when I get to Home Depot I just zone out! I did buy three bags of gravel, 60 lbs. each. As I am the gardener here and not old, but not young, the weight is a challenge. I would buy bulk but they want to deliver huge quantites-large truck loads around this neck of the woods. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Guff  Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 01:51 pm EST :    TerryK, I picked up normal garden sand, I think play sand is the same. Just ask and make sure it isn't sea sand, which may have salts in it. I took a full shot of my bed, but you can't make anything out. Edit, I know the sand/worm casting doesn't look pretty....lol, but once I put some pine needles down, it will look super. Here are some random shots of my first bed. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Guff  Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 10:07 am EST :    I forgot to mention that when I ordered my crocus bulbs, I also ordered a bag of c. cilicium, which contains 3 corms, $7.99 sounded good. My total order was over $50, Dutch Gardens has a special and you take $25 off your total, so really I got a 50% discount. The special is until October 1st, I think. It will be interesting to see the size of the corms they send. Says top-size, so I figure they are flowering size. Does c. cilicium have a scent? Also, it state they are hardy zones 5-9, not sure if I will plant them outside this year. I think I will just pot them up, and keep them inside. Guff - NY, Zone "?"   Guff  Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 05:45 pm EST :    I had a deer, walk across my first bed yesterday, and one corm was pushed down into the deer track. No sign of damage, but I couldn't believe how much the corm had grown, also there were roots all over the top of the corm. I know Tim had mentioned roots growing out from the tops, but I have never noticed this before in my pots. Sorry no pictures, but maybe all this root growth explains why mine are growing so well. Guff - NY, Zone "?"

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