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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 12:26 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here are some plants I've had to bring into the greenhouse, last winter I lost a lot of plants. the tubers rotted with the winter wet.

The first are purpurascens

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sorry, there is a rogue persicum in there too.


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and a few pseudibericum


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hopefully, they'll come through the winter safely now.

Dee_b - West Midlands, Zone "7"
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 12:35 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Dee, so now that your plants are protected, you'll be able to exhibit some at Wisley in February? I can see plenty of show-worthy plants in your photos :-)

It's been cold here for the last week or so. I don't heat the glasshouses or tunnels these days; the cost is too high. The only plant to suffer so far is a plant of coum forma Albissimum. Most of my forma Albissimum suffer from the cold if it drops below freezing. I wonder if anyone grows it successfully outside?

Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 02:39 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What a nice collection Dee. They are all growing so nicely and I have to second Tim's suggestion, enter some at the February show.

Terryk - NY, Zone "6"
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 03:25 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for your comments Tim and Terry.

I think I might repot some of those plants now that they are indoors; I know it's not the conventional time to repot, but looking at them in those photos has bought home to me how restricted they look in the small pots....do you think that will be ok Tim?


Tim wrote on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 12:35 pm:

Most of my forma Albissimum suffer from the cold if it drops below freezing. I wonder if anyone grows it successfully outside?



I did risk putting a plant outside a couple of years ago (Golan Heights), under a shrub for shelter, but even then it succumbed to the elements. I find my albissimum plants don't set seed too well either, so it's expensive to replace them.

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Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 10:42 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Dee_b wrote on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 03:25 pm:

I think I might repot some of those plants now that they are indoors; I know it's not the conventional time to repot, but looking at them in those photos has bought home to me how restricted they look in the small pots....do you think that will be ok Tim?



I've never had a problem repotting cyclamen whilst they are in full growth, Dee. The only fiddly bit is keeping each leaf upright and in its original position whilst you tip grit over the leaf stalk to keep everything in place when the plant has been repotted. It's not a bad thing that they are in smallish pots though; I've got carried away with repotting (hoping to produce larger plants for exhibiting) only to get carried away by using a pot too big, which usually leads to the plant sulking because it stays too wet for too long.

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Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 03:05 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Tim wrote on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 12:35 pm:

t's been cold here for the last week or so. I don't heat the glasshouses or tunnels these days; the cost is too high. The only plant to suffer so far is a plant of coum forma Albissimum. Most of my forma Albissimum suffer from the cold if it drops below freezing. I wonder if anyone grows it successfully outside?
Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "


Hi Tim,

So far no try with C. coum f. albissimum, I will plant many cyclamen in our 'new garden' this spring. I know people from Hamburg/Germany who have C. graecum in their garden, they survive frost. I will try that as well, will start with some plants with boaring leaves of course. Will start with C. colchicum, C. elegans, C. pseudibericum, C. graecum, C. alpinum and C. repandum. So far C. cilicium and C. cyprium was no problem at all, I planted the tubers around 15 cm. deep.

Regards,

Jan

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Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 03:58 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Jan, I have similar plans here. I've been growing mirabile outside for eight years now and in that time it has proved to be as hardy as coum and hederifolium for me. I did grow graecum outside at our last house and it seemed happy enough, even producing a few flowers every year.

I'm sure that most species can be grown outside; as we all know, there is more to hardiness than resistance to cold temperatures. If the tuber is sitting in poorly drained soil, it's far more likely to succumb to winter weather.

I wonder whether ot not anyone grows rohlfsianum outside. I'm sure that it would be possible, especially in the southwest of the country. Summer moisture might be a problem, but that can be sorted out with some kind of cover for the tuber.

I think it's all about finding the right site for whatever species you want to grow outside. I'll try everything outside here, Jan. The problem at the the moment is that I can barely grow enough to keep up with sales, let alone to plant out for myself!

Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "
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Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 10:37 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Quite a collection there,nice leaf patterns.

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Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 11:12 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dee_b
your shelves. Is your greenhouse a Rion? Do you remember where you got them from. Ours has this type of shelf all the way around in the inside.Plant Forum

Mimi - Wisconsin, Zone "4b"
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Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 01:03 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for the info on repotting Tim....thought I might try one or two to see how they go.

Mimi, I don't know the manufacturer of the greenhouse...sorry.
The shelves the plants are on are only 3ft wide and 2ft high, they rest on the floor of the greenhouse and are usually outside in the summer. The actual greenhouse staging is similar to yours, its about 3ft high and 3ft wide & 18 inch deep....but green. I bought both of them from B & Q; but they may not have that store in the U.S.

Dee_b - West Midlands, Zone "7"
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Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 09:31 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

They are so very nice. WOuld you happen to have any more information on B& Q? such as the entire store name, town, etc? do they have a www.? Could I get something from them mail order?

Mimi - Wisconsin, Zone "4b"
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Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 03:51 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mimi, my husband has corrected me and told me we had the smaller stands from another store and they were an 'end of range' product. The main staging, which you can't really see on those photos were from B&Q which is a national hardware store, but I don't have any other information on them, I've had them many years...sorry.

Dee_b - West Midlands, Zone "7"
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Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 05:34 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mimi would this work for you?

http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/index.cfm?page=_productdetails&productid= 1128&cid1=192&cid2=698&cid3=-99

Otherwise bat those eyes at Charles and ask pretty please will you build me some shelves?

Terryk - NY, Zone "6"
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Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 02:02 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes, put his wood working skills to work for sure. Those shelves are very nice.

Mimi - Wisconsin, Zone "4b"


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