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Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 01:58 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There were hundreds of Cyclamen for sale at Waterloo Gardens last week. There was only one plant with snowdrop-like flowers so I brought it home along with two companions. The blush pink flower is fragrant as is the white one, but not the third plant which has a dark pink nose.

Are these selections of persicum or hybrids of it? I think the foliage of these and many graecum are similar.







Carol23 - Southeastern PA, Zone "6B"
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Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 04:27 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Very nice Carol. I like the white with pink marking and the pink flowered one too. The other is interesting, but not sure it does it for me. However, I would have gone for it for the scent. They all have nice leaf markings.

Terryk - NY, Zone "6"
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Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 06:01 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carol
to me they look like florists hybrids,still nice though

Tony_willis - Lancashire, Zone "7"
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Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 11:31 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Carol,
I always assumed these plants were grown from seeds mixes similar to Cyclamen persicum grandiflorum Scentsation Mixed or Cyclamen persicum grandiflorum Lazer Mixed F1.

I like your finds. The white one is interesting. The leaves have stronger markings than usual and it is scented. Additionally, the flower form is interesting. I would have bought it too. And the tricolored scented flower is also a nice one.

Pickings were slim around here this Christmas. The only two I bought were these two reds, both faded by now in this picture. The red on the left isn't scented but the leaf was good. The one on the right was scented. I think it is the first time I found a scented red - well, you will have to trust me that it was red when I bought it.

Loretta - NJ, Zone "6"
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Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 07:15 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Loretta that one on the left has very nice markings. It's a keeper for sure.

Terryk - NY, Zone "6"
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Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 02:34 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I like the red flowers, Loretta. A gardener from Chanticleer chooses her plants by scent.
She won't purchase non-scented Cyclamen persicum.

If they are hybrids...... what other genetics are in the mix?

Carol23 - Southeastern PA, Zone "6B"
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Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 03:59 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My use of the word 'hybrid was misleading in that in 'Cyclamen' 1997, not the subsequent book which I do not have, C G-W indicates in a long and interesting article on florist cyclamen that they all appear to be pure persicum which have been selected and cross bred over numerous generations.This has lead to the variations seen today which are as far removed from the wild plants as it sems possible to get.He states- no other species have been involved.

Tony_willis - Lancashire, Zone "7"
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Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 10:23 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The description for the Lazer series says F1. Is that a mistake?

Loretta - NJ, Zone "6"
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Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 06:41 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No I think they are F1 hybrids between different strains of cyclamen persicum.My non botanical understanding is that it is just the first cross between two plants which is repeated each year to produce the same characteristics. They do this with a lot of petunias and vegetables.

Tony_willis - Lancashire, Zone "7"
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Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 09:53 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Duh! Your right. I wasn't thinking.

Loretta - NJ, Zone "6"


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