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Dee_b wrote on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 04:09 pm:

Tim, do you have any hederifolium confusum growing in the garden, if so, can you tell us the conditions they're grown in.



Hi Dee, I don't have any confusum outside in the garden, only straight hederifolium. Actually, I don't have many cyclamen outside here at all; I keep selling them :-)

I plan to have patches of everything outside eventually.


Terryk wrote on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 09:14 pm:

Even I received mine yesterday Tim.



Susan found the new subscription form with the standing order details for the bank in the kitchen yesterday evening. It needs to be with the bank by 4th January; maybe that's why my journal hasn't arrived. I'll look into it.

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Johnlonsdale wrote on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 07:40 pm:

How deep are the tubers please? Do you have any photos showing them in the context of the house/garden


Between 30-40mm deep I guess, but gravel has a tendency to move with traffic and weather so this may vary. I wll post some pics as soon as I get a chance.

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Johnlonsdale wrote on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 07:40 pm:

Do you have any photos showing them in the context of the house/garden


Hi John A few photographs as promised. I don't think any of this was built last time you were here.

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 09:11 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Pat, what a great view you have from that glass enclosed room!

I think I would be running out the door often to check out what's happening in the garden.

Are those two glasshouses I see in the background?

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Terryk wrote on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 09:11 am:

Are those two glasshouses I see in the background?


Yes it is, the nearer one is the graecum house the further smaller one is mixed with other cyclamen and a small collection of primula allionii forms. In between them which you can't see is a 10ft x 4ft raised frame where I keep my bulbs.

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:21 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It looks really good Pat. I'm really took with the idea,cyclamen right by the house, no other plants to compromise them, they break up the gravelled area and they compliment the phormium and cordyline too, being low growing.
I think I'm gonna get hubby to get our paving up and grit the patio area...so if he scowls at you at the Feb show you'll know why! (just jesting)

In my garden, the cyclamen are planted in the general garden, and I don't get to see them till I've cut down the dying herbaceous plants, by which time the hederifolium have usually flowered. I do have area with coum, that are just starting to spread, in an area where I grow annuals in the summer.

Is that a holly in the middle of the garden….do you not have cyclamen under there?

As Terry says, it’s a lovely view from your conservatory.
The kitchen is at the back of our house, so in winter I only view the garden when I’m washing up….but it would be a pleasure to do the dishes if I was looking at cyclamen. Now if I could get a conservatory.....

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:28 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Pat, is there any chance you will share a photo of the glasshouses and the bulb frame?


Dee_b wrote on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:21 am:

I think I'm gonna get hubby to get our paving up and grit the patio area



Dee, I have to find out your secrets to get your way in the garden. I have been longing for a glasshouse here for years, but he's not bitting. Of course Jerry did give me this wonderful trip to visit Tim and Susan as a present so I have to be thankful for that.

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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 11:17 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

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Terryk wrote on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:28 am:

Dee, I have to find out your secrets to get your way in the garden


Well, Terry, Dave's not really into gardening and he's very easy going. I guess I'm lucky to have a very understanding hubby. He takes me to Wisley 3 times a year too, a 260 mile round trip as I don't drive. He's quite into cyclamen now, by default

Have you not got space for a greenhouse Terry? If you just went out and bought one, would'nt Jerry build it for you? Perhaps you could order a ton of gravel too and make a cyclamen bed round it...like Pat's

I think your trip to the UK is a fabulous present from Jerry; life experiences are much better than material things.

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Dee_b wrote on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:21 am:

Is that a holly in the middle of the garden….do you not have cyclamen under there?


Yes I have, I have a terrible habit of throwing the contents of ungerminated seed pots and plants that are not good enough to keep or sell into the garden, its suprising how many survive,

Terryk wrote on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:28 am:

Now if I could get a conservatory


The best thing we ever did. We almost live in that room.

Terryk wrote on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:28 am:

is there any chance you will share a photo of the glasshouses and the bulb frame?


Yes I will, although there is not a lot to see at present in terms of flowers.

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What cyclamen species are growing under the holly bush Pat, it must be a good growing area, it usually is under shrubs/trees.
I know what you mean about discarding ungerminated seeds. I kept pots of ungerminated 2005 seed in the greenhouse until this autumn, then I put them outside, still in their pots, as I needed the space, and hey presto, up they popped! Not all of them, but a fair few.

What size are your greenhouses Pat; I've got an 8ft by 6ft and a 6ft x 6ft. I do have another 6 x 6, which I grow Lithops in, but it's now a sort of overspill area for cyclamen too..and it's still not enough. I have to admit though, I probably don't use the space to it's best advantage.

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Dee_b wrote on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 11:46 am:

What cyclamen species are growing under the holly bush Pat


Mostly hederifolium with a few coum.

Dee_b wrote on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 11:46 am:

What size are your greenhouses


The graecum house is 10x 6 and the smaller one 8x6 and as you say it is not enough. I don't know if you know or have heard of Brian Burrow but he said to me just grow 100 good quality plants and you will get as much satisfaction as from 1000, he is right but how do choose that 100?.

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Cycnich wrote on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 11:59 am:

but how do choose that 100?.


I don't know....I don't seem to be able to sell/dispose of any plants I grow. I've still got every plant I've ever grown! It's an addiction, striving for that perfect plant.

I think I will have to have a good look in my greenhouses and put some of my poorer plants into the garden at least.

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I am glad to hear I am not the only one who can't part with their plants.

I have always blamed this on Tim all this time-when I first had my pots of cyclamen germinate, I was ready to give some away as presents. Tim said NO, you have to give them a few years so you can see the true patterns. Looks like this is a cyclamen curse we all have.

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an optimal position for Cyc. hederifolium and graecum. Below the 80 mm pebble stones is a layer of limy grit (4 to 8 mm), nothing else

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Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 11:08 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Very nice looking. No problems with the mice digging in that area and then visiting the house?

I like the pattern of the stone in your walkway also.

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Hi Pat,

Thanks for posting the pictures of your conservatory and surroundings. It certainly wasn't there when we came over here in September 1995 and it looks great. The view up the garden still looks very familiar though and brings back memories!

The plants look great in the gravel. My best plants are those that have seeded themselves into some strange places and I'm going to be planting many more outside this summer. I don't think I've ever grown a potted C. cilicium I can really be proud of, but it clearly does very well outside, so they'll all go out now, probably all the intaminatum as well, and maybe all the mirabile. I can still gets seed from them all in the garden and set will probably be better.

The leaves on the cilicium in the garden are twice the size of those in pots and the flowers are also more robust. Sure, they end up looking a bit less pristine, but with no shows here that's not a problem. I'm tempted to do likewise with all my pseudibericum and trochopteranthum also - I know from at least 5 years experience they are hardy and do well enough.

I might easily end up with significant numbers of only graecum, rohlfsianum and persicum in the big greenhouse, with some selected 'repandums' in the other greenhouse. Graecum can't be beaten and these moves make more room for seedlings!

All the best,

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Terryk wrote on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:28 am:

Pat, is there any chance you will share a photo of the glasshouses and the bulb frame?


Bulb frame as promised.

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Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 11:52 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Pat thanks posting. A bulb frame is a great concept. It looks pretty large. How do you access the bulb pots in the middle? Are the bulbs sitting on a platform/table? I assume the roof is made of some sort of glass.

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I would imagine this enables you to grow and enjoy so many more plants than in the open garden.

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