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Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

This was is in the front garden bed of my "new" old house, it was being choked by a horrific ground cover which I am working on getting out, still some under there though, will go at it again on the weekend....can anyone tell me what it is? Will it flower? It is about 6-10 inches tall. Thanks!

Lilcottageshoppe - Illinois, Zone "5"
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Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 04:20 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Bishop's Weed, Gout Weed, Snow-on-the-Mountain. You can do a google search for more info re habits. Are you saying that it is being "choked out". Usually Gout Weed chokes out everything in it's path. Some species are highly invasive and will grow right through cement walkways. I would only use it in an area here where nothing else will grow, like under a tree that has a dense canopy where no grass will thrive. It is beautiful - but it is generally thought of as a thug if it is planted in a mixed perennial bed.

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Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 08:58 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, then it was a sister to the rest of the horrible groundcover there. Ok, out it goes, but now that I read about it, it is almost impossible to get rid of...uggghhh!

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Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 09:05 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I got rid of every trace of it here eight years ago, along with orange ditch lilies. I dug with a friend of my daughter's for 2 weeks. Then I dug some more, deeper. I removed every trace of the stuff. Then DH took an ax to the tree roots in that area and removed most of them. Then I sifted the soil and removed anything that might have been a piece of goutweed root. Then I added aged compost, mixed it in, planted some favourites...and thus my yellow/blue garden bed was born! Am I ever glad I did it when I had more energy!

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Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 09:25 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It has overtaken my daughters back bed and I am so guilty of having put it there.I totally dislike it.
A wolf in sheep's clothing.It's pretty variegated foliage fools you..

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Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 09:33 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm embarrassed to say, I was hoping it was Variegated Wegelia :(

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Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 09:39 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Don't be embarrassed! I fell in love with it at a clients home 20 yrs ago and she gave me some! Can you believe I wanted some..I just now figured out.. well 4 yrs ago..that its not to be coveted..
Plus it does look like VW.. W is woody..this is not..:)You made me smile.

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Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 10:11 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Gee Marie - I wouldn't want to make you mad!!!!

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Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Too funny Lilyb! I bet you are right though....I hold a grudge too.

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Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 11:19 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL!!! I guess I better bulk up my muscles if I am to get rid of this beast!

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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:12 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, I thought I got rid of this last fall, but today I came home from work, and it is back! But its teasing me with the flowers! Guess I should start digging it out again this weekend! Plant Forum

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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 06:27 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Arlene, I would sacrifice those little anenomes if I had to and get rid of the gout weed right away. If you can't get to it this year make sure that it doesn't go to flower and consequently seed. Gardenbug's aggressive approach to this thug is what works best - can you borrow a jack hammer :).

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Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 08:01 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Save those anemone blandas...but murder the rest!!! NOW! Don't allow even a piece of root to remain! You may need to do it a third time too. IT IS WORTH IT!

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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 07:31 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Good luck to you Arlene! How big of an area does it cover?

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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 11:18 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, I cleaned up everything in the yard, planted a few roses, built a firepit, everything this weekend but get rid of this monster. Kept thinking maybe it would go away by itself. :0
Came home from work today and I think it has spread another foot. Looks like I will have to spend the entire weekend getting rid of it this weekend.

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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 11:33 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There is an all green variety of this pest that is even harder to get rid of. A few years ago my neighbor said that in a previous year she and another neighbor thought they had dug all of it out but it still came back up. It has spread to an area behind my house now, but fortunately it is in an unused area. And a smaller area has been self seeded in the field which I consider my "lawn" in the back further East. I have been giving the plants a spray of weedkiller in the Summer, but the field is so rocky I don't dig unless I need to put in a new bed.

Marie in Maine

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Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 01:30 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Try to dig it out - the sooner the better. If (when) you later find it reappearing, pull out any sign of it you see - every day. That is another way to kill it. It takes over a year, but eventually it will starve because, never having any leaves, it can't photosynthesize. I did that once because it had got itself into the roots of big plants I didn't want to dig up. It worked, but you have to be prepared to do it every single day for about a year and a half. And be very careful never to let it develop a leaf.

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Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 06:34 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I absolutely cringe when I am at a garden centre and over hear one of the seasonal hires with a customer "Oh it can go anywhere, sun shade, anywhere". True but a word of caution would be nice. I hate to berate this perennial - in the right place it is really beautiful - almost majestic - but in my opinion it has no place in suburban gardens. Even in large country gardens - it must be situated in the right location.

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Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 12:21 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Please tell me this isn't the same stuff!!! I have been yanking this out of my front bed, then someone told me not to because its a good groundcover...I can't tell if it's the same thing or not but it keeps coming back like crazy.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 07:16 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sorry, Jacqueline, but it is the dreaded thug. My daughter planted it in one of my raised beds (thank goodness it's contained) and it's an ongoing battle. The roots can travel for 'miles' underground so it takes a lot of digging to get every bit out!

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Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 10:15 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Nibbs! I was thinking so myself but since this is all new to me I just wasn't sure. I tilled the heck out of the area a while back and I don't notice as much know as I did when I first started yanking it out. Since I didn't know this was a "dreaded thug" before I had already planted everything in that particular bed. Will I need to dig everything back up to fight this little monster?!?!
This is where it was growing:

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Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 08:47 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I actually deliberately planted some Bishop's Weed in an area where nothing else would grow. It is on the north side of my house, mostly in the shade, and under some bird feeders where is has to fight the toxicity of sunflower seed shells. It is struggling, too, hasn't really spread beyond about a square foot patch, and usually dies back to the ground by mid-summer! It actually looks pretty when it is growing and I am not yet worried about it being invasive as its thuggish nature is subdued by its environment.

This beastie does have its uses but I agree it needs to be planted, if at all, with great caution!

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