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Author Message   Zephirine  Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 04:17 am EST :    I bought it last year, and forgot it for a while.. It is mainly a foliage plant and likes a light shade situation...do you recognize it? Zeph Zephirine - Rhone-Alpes, Zone "7B"   Gardenfiend  Supporting Member My Weather My Garden Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:33 am EST :    I've seen those leaves before! I thought it was on a tiarella I once had, but I can't find its twin via Google and the leaves on yours appear to be a little bit harder than tiarella's. If the white in the middle of the leaves represents the beginnings of a flower, then it certainly isn't a tiarella. So, I give up. Gardenfiend - Germany, Zone "7a"   Zephirine  Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 10:51 pm EST :    Oh no, dear Mara, please don't give up : this plant deserves better, as I brought it back from..your country! (Hügin the Terrible in Freiburg, once more, lol..) It's a delicious little plant for the shaded border. As it emerges in spring, it launches a "furry closed umbrella" upwards, and then opens it progressively to reach the status you see on the picture. I haven't seen it bloom so far, but the flowers are not particularly attractive, from what I saw on Google : a bunch of white flowerlets in July and August. It's mainly for its foliage and curious habit when it emerges that it is known. Comes from China and Korea originally. Belongs to the asteraceae family. Its genus isn't commonly heard of, I agree, but its species name refers to the similarity of its leaves with those of a very well known perennial.... Normally, you should find it now! Zephirine - Rhone-Alpes, Zone "7B"   Abgardeneer  Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 11:13 pm EST :    Is it a perennial geranium? There are quite a few species with very deeply cut leaves, e.g. G. tuberosum, G. caffrum, G. columbinum, etc.. Failing that, perhaps one of the very narrow-bladed aconitums? I wonder if the leaf shape will change a bit as it produces more leaves? More: I posted the above just as the additional clues were being posted! Perhaps a podophyllum or an arisaema then? (I can't find any bifurcate leaves like that though.) Abgardeneer - Alberta, Zone "3"   Zephirine  Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 11:37 pm EST :    Good tries, Lori, but no...I do agree that it makes me think of podophyllum, though, because of its habit! Not a geranium either... But...you found a very important clue!!! Go on! One more hint, for the species name..it is feminine! Google help you! Zephirine - Rhone-Alpes, Zone "7B"   Gardenfiend  Supporting Member My Weather My Garden Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 02:04 am EST :    Thank you Lori ABGardener! And of course thank you Google. I went straight for aconitifolia - and there it was: Syneilesis aconitifolia It does look attractive on the photos. On one, it appeared as if the white powdery substance in the middle of the leaf on your photo was actually dispersed over the entire leaves giving them almost a variegated look. That would be nice! Gardenfiend - Germany, Zone "7a"   Zephirine  Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 02:17 am EST :    Congratulations Mara (with Lori's help, of course!!!) Yes, it is Syneilesis aconitifolia! And look at the pictures in this page, aren't they really funny with these furry little closed umbrellas, like emerging mushrooms? http://hostat-elfriede.blogspot.com/2007/04/wer-bin-ich.html Zeph PS : No wonder the species is feminine :as it is funny when it wakes up, it definitely couldn't be a male.... Zephirine - Rhone-Alpes, Zone "7B"   Maggiepie  Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 04:31 am EST :    Thanks for this thread, I have some Syneilesis aconitifolia seed sitting in the fridge that I acquired from the seedex from ORGS, I had forgotten about them. I will sow them today after seeing these pics. Maggiepie - New Brunswick, Zone "4b"   Abgardeneer  Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 06:28 am EST :    Glad you remembered! But, darn - I kept scanning through the Gardens North catalogue last night, "knowing" I'd seen it there... and I missed it! I, too, have a number of seedlings of this in the basement, waiting to be planted out - easy, warm germinator. I'm excited to see this one in the garden! Abgardeneer - Alberta, Zone "3"   Maggiepie  Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 11:02 am EST :    HI Lori, SYNEILESIS palmata Palmate Umbrella Plant is the only hit I got at GN. Is very tempting I have to say. Maggiepie - New Brunswick, Zone "4b"   Gardenfiend  Supporting Member My Weather My Garden Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 11:49 am EST :    Emerging, they really do resemble the mushrooms called Schopftintling in German :) Maybe that's why I've seen the leaves before. The owner of that blog is a member of the same German gardening forum I participate in. She may have posted a photo of her plant (and naturally I forgot its name!). She wrote that she grows it in dry semi-shade, which sounds like it should be a useful plant for somewhat difficult garden spots. Very tempting indeed! Gardenfiend - Germany, Zone "7a"   Abgardeneer  Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 07:28 pm EST :    Maggiepie - GN had both species earlier (perhaps not showing now due to being sold out?) I bought both a while ago; both are easy warm germinators, and I had very good germination rates. Abgardeneer - Alberta, Zone "3"   Maggiepie  Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 03:18 pm EST :    I hope I have the same result Lori, thanks to Mara, I have the perfect place for some. Maggiepie - New Brunswick, Zone "4b"   Tony_willis  Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 02:39 pm EST :    This is one of the new things that have come in from China.I got one last year and put it in the garden cool moist shady place and it has come up okay this spring Tony_willis - Lancashire, Zone "7"   Gardenbug  Supporting Member Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 05:41 am EST :    This talk of being an easy grower is dangerous. I believe this is a BIG spreader, so be warned. Gardenbug - Ontario, Zone "4/5"   Jgwoodard  My Garden Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 09:18 pm EST :    Syneilesis palmata growing in Hantaek botanical garden near Yongin, Korea. In one area, it covers an entire hillside. Jgwoodard - TN, Zone "7"   Zephirine  Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 09:54 pm EST :    What a lovely sight, Joseph! Do you mean it could become a thug in a garden, really??? Ferns do spread in forests for example, but they don't become invasive in our gardens however. Could Syneilesis behave the same way, or is it a plants killer????? Zephirine - Rhone-Alpes, Zone "7B"   Jgwoodard  My Garden Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 12:23 am EST :    Zephrine, I believe these are clump-formers in the garden and are not particularly invasive. Jgwoodard - TN, Zone "7"   Zephirine  Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 12:25 am EST :    Oh, thank you so much for the relief!!!!! Zephirine - Rhone-Alpes, Zone "7B"

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