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Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 08:37 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

It is about that time that we'll get to see Malgorzata's and Mara's Saxifraga Fortunei photos (I hope!)

Last year Malgorzata was so kind to send me some seed after I whined that I could not get them here in the states (if anyone has a source, please tell!)

I have six tiny, tiny seedlings of the white which I can not get a photo of but here is one robust red form.

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I am not sure how long before I will see blossoms but sure am proud of my baby.

I took two leaf cuttings and I am hoping I can get more from them. In the meantime, I think I will winter this one over indoors as I am afraid to put it out and loose it.

Thanks again Malgorzata

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Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 01:19 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

WTG, Terry! I look forward to Malgorzata and Mara's pics as well. Yours may blossom too, Terry.. wouldn't that be great?!

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Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 01:33 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Thanks Tanya, I feel rather lucky as they seem to be slow to get going-or at least this has been my experience.

Sunnyday2day wrote on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 01:19 pm:

Yours may blossom too, Terry.. wouldn't that be great?!



Everyone will know when it happens!

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Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 09:37 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Wow, Terry! You have a magic touch! For those who do not know Terry can germinate even dust!! ;-) I send Terry exactly that...dust! It was impossible to distinguish seeds from dust in the pockets! Oh, I am sooo glad Terry it worked! I think you may see a tiny bloom even this year. Your seedling is so beautiful and healthy! I bought a couple of tiny babies last year and they did actually have a single flower bloom by the end of the season! By this time I could even divide them if I wanted! ;)
I went to the archives to check when was Saxifraga fortunei blooming for me last year...seems like we need to wait a little longer, till the end of October.
http://www.gardenbuddies.com/forum/messages/1212584/1230548.html
Thank you for letting me know the outcome Terry!

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Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 06:45 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Hi Malgorzata-I'm so glad you found the post! I'll keep you advised if I get a bloom.

Thanks again

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Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:21 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

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Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:02 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

That is wonderful, Terry! I never could get seeds from mine because I thought it was all just dust...
I agree with Malgorzata, you may well see a flower or two this year, if frost doesn't arrive too early. The plants themselves are quite hardy, I think, but frost ruins the flowers :( It will be exciting to see what the progeny of hybrids look like.

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Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 01:44 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Mara, you know I will be posting.

I still have specs size seedlings of the white, I hope they put up more growth so that I can get them flowering. The pots had a good deal of moss due the excess moisture (I have kept the pots in baggies to help them stay moist, but they were under grow lights and the moss took over). I transplanted them and added some grit to keep the moss away.

I also took two leaves, with stems and added some hormone powder to them and potted them up. I hope they root too so it will give me 3 red flowered ones.

If I were to put this one in the ground, what are your garden conditions that you have yours growing in? I could do dry shade or shade with soil slightly moister or sun moist?

By the way, if I either of you has spare dust this year, I love dust!

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Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 02:51 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Mine are mostly in semi-shade, some receive almost no sun at all. They seem to like moist, humus-rich soil.
How do you grow yours, Malgorzata?

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Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:29 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

I keep some in pots and move them around during summer looking for shade. Then when they bloom I can enjoy (hopefully!) the flowers somewhere on the eye level (they are small as you know). Some plants did very well during last year planted in the ground in shade (those babies I mentioned). My whole garden are raised beds so still I hope to have an easy access to blooms there. And yes, I did water them well. I just noticed that one of the Saxifragas in the pot shows the first signs of fat (!) flower buds between the stems. Yay! :)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:41 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Malgorzata wrote on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:29 pm:

I just noticed that one of the Saxifragas in the pot shows the first signs of fat (!) flower buds between the stems. Yay! :)



Great news Magorzata! Do I look for blooms down at the base or further up?

I just took my magnifying glass out, and may have one bloom forming!!! Keep you posted...

Thanks for the tips too on sites to grow them.

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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 07:52 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 08:27 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Exciting!! Mine don't look very good this year. The insanely wet summer has encouraged slugs to feast, and other plants to overwhelm the more delicate varieties of S. fortunei. One or two have definitely died The whole area needs some serious thinning out. Next year. Or maybe next life.

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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 11:10 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Great looking plant. I notice mine has many new leaves forming at the base, so it must be happy!

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Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 10:36 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Terry, just wanted to show you my first seedling in bloom!

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Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 11:53 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Waoooh! Superb, Malgorata! Bright red flowers, and lovely hair on the shiny green leaves: a great seedling indeed!
Congratulations!

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Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 01:02 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Thanks Zeph! I am really pleased! And the flower does not look like any of the mother plants I have! I seem to like Saxifraga fortunei even more now. ;) Just think of the fun with seeds/dust and flower possibilities!

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Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 04:15 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Your seedling is gorgeous, Malgorzata! As good as any named variety. How long between sowing and the first flower?
Between your seedlings and the unbelievably fantastic selection of named varieties available in Japan, you will soon be in Saxifraga heaven. I hope you are kind to the rest of us and post photos of every single one!

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Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 07:17 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

I must have missed your post yesterday, thanks for sharing that photo. I wish mine had flowers but none so far.

Do you think cool weather triggers them and because I have mine indoors it is not doing this? Or maybe it will flower next year, it is only one year old. My other white seedlings are growing-more than speck size so there is hope.

If anyone gets spare dust this year, e-mail me, I'd love this kind of dust!

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Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 06:50 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosPrint Post

Thanks Mara and Terry! Mara I think I am already in Saxifraga fortunei heaven! Thanks to you of course...to your enabling! As a matter of fact I did not know at first the difference between S.fortunei and S. stolonifera that was growing everywhere around my old Japanese house, including the stone wall. At first glance, same flowers, similar leaves but different blooming time and Saxifraga stolinifera has those runners... No confusion between the two any more! ;) Pictures are coming..soon...I was just too busy during the days to take some decent shots. Hope the blooms wait for me a little longer.

The seedling bloomed in the same year. Encouraging for impatient person like me! :)

Terry, I don't know why your seedlings take longer to bloom. In last few days I was researching, asking, begging for translations...The gist of Saxifraga fortunei care:
S.f. seeds are ripe around February. The best results are from fresh seed. They may germinate like in a month. The soil is Akadama, Kanuma, sand/gravel mix. Think alpine. Very good drainage. The seeds according to one book should be covered with 5 mm of soil. S.f. needs moisture and cool temperatures but hates to stand in water. No direct light in summer (a big NO) but morning or evening sun in spring and fall are fine. For a whole year my S.f. was growing fine but suddenly in September things looked no good. Slugs and probably wet crown (over watering when the temperatures went down from above 30C to below 30C). Getting rid of slugs, taking off lots of leaves and less watering seemed to fix up the problem. I also moved the plants in pots to area with morning sun. The ones I had in the garden did fine by themselves. They are "mounted" and the drainage is good there. Saxifrage fortunei is apparently considered as NOT an easy plant here. Dislikes wet (rots) but needs constant moisture. It dislikes hot summers often disappearing from the face of earth for the fellow gardeners. In nature S.F. grows on slopes, in rocky soil. It thrives in cool weather.

Hope it helps Terry! I am so curious what flowers you will get! ;) Of course you are on my "dust" list! hope I can save more seeds this year. The winter wind is very destructive here. :(

And this one followed me home last weekend. :) Saxifraga fortunei, "Lipstick".

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