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Roys
| | Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 04:54 pm EST : |  
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Hi all, I was at Wisley RHS gardens today for the Cyclamen Society show. I forgot to photograph the Cyclamen, but managed to wander and take some photos of the Camellias... It was a bit chilly in the UK today, about 4C 39F, but there was a pretty good show... Mainly x Williamsii in flower...Do they only come in shades of pink??? Hope you enjoy...
Roys
- West midlands,
Zone "8a"
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Gardenfiend

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My Weather
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| | Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 05:20 pm EST : |  
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Thanks for showing these. Camellias always cheer me up, and Williamsii are so exuberant! Since Jury's Yellow is one, I guess williamsii aren't always pink ;-)
Gardenfiend
- Germany,
Zone "7a"
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Rogervanloon

| | Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 02:14 pm EST : |  
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I wonder, is 'Jury's Yellow' a Camellia x williamsii hybrid? I thought that only the direct crosses between C. japonica cultivars and C. saluenensis could bear that name. 'Jury's Yellow' has been described as a 'second generation x williamsii hybrid', and IMHO it has other blood in it (back-crossed to another japonica or to what? I wonder.) So, to come back to the original question, yes, I think Camellia x williamsii crosses are always pink. Please correct me if I'm wrong
Rogervanloon
- Flanders,
Zone "USDA 7b"
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Gardenfiend

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| | Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 02:18 pm EST : |  
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I'm sure you're right Roger. I've always seen it listed as x williamsii, and never gave it any further thought :-)
Gardenfiend
- Germany,
Zone "7a"
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Rogervanloon

| | Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 03:44 pm EST : |  
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Mara, the fact that I'm giving my thoughts here, does not necessarily mean that I'm right
Rogervanloon
- Flanders,
Zone "USDA 7b"
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Galanthophile

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My Favorite Photo
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| | Posted on Monday, February 04, 2008 - 01:28 pm EST : |  
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What a treat, fabulous show!
Galanthophile
- Ann (Northern England),
Zone "8"
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Ton_hannink

Supporting Member
My Garden
| | Posted on Monday, February 04, 2008 - 03:19 pm EST : |  
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I only have seen all the Camellia's in Summer without flowers. Beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
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Deeds

| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 01:32 pm EST : |  
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Rogervanloon, I am sorry to correct you but there are other colours in the x williamsii, although pink is predominant. 'Auburn White' is a white semi-double. 'E.T.R. Carlyon' is also a large white. Burncoose nursery, which is owned by the Williams family do claim Drury's Yellow as a williamsii hybrid. I am lucky enough to live less than 10 miles away from Caerhays Castle which is the home of the Williams family, and looking forward to visiting next week (they open the garden in March for 3 months).
Deeds
- Cornwall,
Zone "9"
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Galanthophile

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| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 03:36 pm EST : |  
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What a treat that visit will be! Keep us posted please!
Galanthophile
- Ann (Northern England),
Zone "8"
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Luis_pr
My Time
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 03:51 am EST : |  
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Deeds, would you mind taking some pictures for those of us who live far away? Thanks, Luis
Luis_pr
- Hurst, Texas,
Zone "USDA 7b/8a"
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Deeds

| | Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 11:19 am EST : |  
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I certainly will Luis, I had to postpone my visit due to terrible weather, but I have time yet they are open until the end of May.
Deeds
- Cornwall,
Zone "9"
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Pudniw
My Time
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 04:36 am EST : |  
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Gorgeous photos. A plant I can only dream of.
Pudniw
- Falkland Islands,
Zone "?"
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Rogervanloon

| | Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 01:44 pm EST : |  
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Hi Dawn (Deeds), Thanks for your mail (I was late reading it).
As said: I'm giving my opinion, I don't claim to be always right. But I seriously wonder if those cultivars are really true x Williamsii hybrids (with Camellia saluenensis as one of the direct parents - no second-generation or open pollinated crosses). Do you know their exact pedigree? (I don't have the Register, perhaps it is given there).
Rogervanloon
- Flanders,
Zone "USDA 7b"
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Lovinlife

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| | Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 02:29 pm EST : |  
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I have grown pink, red, and white camellias, but have never seen the yellow one. They also product both single and double flowers. I can't grow them here in Utah because it's too cold, but they're just gorgeous shrubs.
Lovinlife
- Utah,
Zone "5"
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Lovinlife

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| | Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 02:31 pm EST : |  
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Roy and Roger: Are you both new to GB? If so, may I be among the first to say Welcome!
Lovinlife
- Utah,
Zone "5"
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Lovinlife

Supporting Member
| | Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 02:37 pm EST : |  
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I just found this, which may help: http://www.camforest.com/sbch.html Sorry for so many posts here - especially since I'm certainly not an expert on the subject and only grow camellias for a short period of time.
Lovinlife
- Utah,
Zone "5"
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Rogervanloon

| | Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 03:41 pm EST : |  
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As to me: not quite, Gloria - as you can see from my profile
Rogervanloon
- Flanders,
Zone "USDA 7b"
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