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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 07:27 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

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'Atropurpurea' I've had for several years and is always a real pleaser! 'Clyde Ikins' is newer to market and a very worth selection!

Terry

Twrosz - Alberta, Zone "3"
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Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 09:45 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I like both of them. They look so beautiful. I notice it's cold in your region in the winter. How do you save keep them through winter? Thanks!

Calvinchi - Ontario, Zone "5"
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Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 11:05 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I like both of them too. What kind of camera do you have? I am now just learning how to use the movie camera. One step forward, two steps back, LOL Most of the pond lilies I sunk down into the pond came back, some got out of their pots and are growing near the middle of the pond which is very deep.Plant Forum

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Tootsie - Michigan, Zone "5/6"
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Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 11:45 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Tootsie,

How warm does your pond have to be for the hardy lilies to bloom. I have an irrigation pond that gets fresh water constantly unless a neighbor takes his share and then the ditch is slowed down.

I think about planting some lilies in the pond and wonder if they would bloom.

Arrowhead, irises, rush, creeping Jenny all grow in it. So what about a hardy lily.

Also the pond is empty during late October to April. Sometimes we get snow and other times it is rain. This year was the end of the drought. So we have an abundance of water in the Idaho mountains and rivers.

So basically, the water comes from the mountains, then to the reservoirs, then the boise river, then the large canals that break down to smaller canals to ditches that are spread out amongst the neighborhood and we get the last of the flow of water and then it goes down a hill into a creek. Which continues to more people's farms and a cemetery, etc.

So could I plant lilies in it?

Karalyn Idaho Zone 6
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Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Terry, those are great lilies. I'm trying to obtain the Clyde Ilkins. We'll see how that goes. Let me know if you ever want make a trade or something on your other ones.

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Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 01:10 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Karalyn,
Yes, Yes, Yes, your pond sounds like a wonderful show place for some water lilies! I think the water temps are around 70 degrees when they start blooming! The nice thing is they do not all bloom at the same time, so there is always a new color opening :) I am still looking for the latest pics of mine.

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Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 01:51 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Terry, aren't those beautiful?! I also just love the pure white ones. :)

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Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 12:17 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Calvinchi, heck, if the winters keep coming like this past one, we'd soon be growing palm trees here! I do have all my water lilies growing in LARGE containers, which are kept in a coldroom during the winter. The temperature is maintained at 4 or 5c and the plants are kept under water. Roots which are not kept wet can often rot, the yellow varieties are especially prone to doing so!



Tootsie, my camera is a Kodak EasyShare DX6340, I've had it now for four years. Can't say as if I've been terribly thrilled with it, some of the dials are kinda hard to turn! I'm sure any updated models are much better!I wanted to ask you about your plant there ... does it flower with small yellow blooms with four petals? If so then it would be what is called spadderdock, nuphar luteum. This is an extremely hardy plant that can grow in very COOL water conditions, we have it on many of the ponds here.




Karalyn, I'd LOVE to be able to send you a big parcel of water lilies, I have so MANY very good varieties! Unfortunately, we can't ship live plants across the Canada / USA border without first acquiring the proper paper work and certificates, otherwise parcels can be ceased and simply destroyed. Karalyn, have you ever tried growing water lilies? When you say that your pond goes 'empty' during late October to April ... are you meaning DRY? ... if so, that's NOT a good thing for water lilies! Please let me know if that's really what you are meaning? Anyways, I will soon send you a private email as I will have seed of some very nice plants that I'd like to send you! You were so very KIND to have passed along all those clematis seeds!

Terry

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Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 12:43 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Terry,

Yes, my irrigation pond goes dry as it is earth bottom unless it snows or rains quite a bit. But in the past, we haven't had a lot of snow, but we have had rains.j

I do have several watergarden and koi ponds. so that is no problem. I was just curious as to se if some waterlilies could be buried and possibly covered with leaves, straw,more dirt, grass, foam or whatever to protect the lily tubers and see what happens when the water comes in during the month of April.

Everything else comes back that grows there during the spring, summer and fall. Yellow flag iris, rush, arrowhead, and other waterplants as well as water skippers or skaters, garter snakes, creeping jenny that I planted there at one time, and daylilies. Plus unwanted stuff. Silver maple trees, sour cherry trees, land irises,, wild rose, and any other seed the birds or the ditch seems to bring in.

The pond is 100'long X 25' wide X 1-3 or 4ft
deep. My kids use to swim in it or ride in little blown up rafts. It is cold water, but we get hot summers.

I wish the US and Canadian borders were like they use to be. Actually I miss the way life use to be before 9/11 when you could run down the ramp in the airport to the plane barely catching it. Where has all the fun gone?
Or visit with your family at the air terminal and let them watch you board your plane and wave goodbye at them when they are sitting by a window.

Hey, saw a news story on the best news in Alberta. They can make fuel with the sand or something that is out there and it takes huge trucks to do the hauling and machinery to get the oil out of the sand...?

What is your take on that?

Karalyn Idaho Zone 6
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Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 02:56 pm:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi, Terry,

When you keep water lilies growing in LARGE containers in a cold room during the winter, do you have light on or off? If light on, do you use a timer? If light off, they would "grow" in hibernating state. I only have imagination. I will try this out when my pond is up running next year.

Thanks!

Calvin

Calvinchi - Ontario, Zone "5"
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Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 01:33 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Karalyn,

mmmmmmm ??? ... I can't say as if your pond has the most ideal conditions. Generally, lilies like to be covered with water ALL of the time. Also during winter, the water protects the roots from freezing solid ... which can kill them. I have read about lilies surviving dry out periods in mild southerly areas of the USA ... but, I sure don't know about up north?

Karalyn, would you ever consider growing a few potted lilies and bringing them in for the winter? I know that naturalizing them would be great ... but, it just might not work under your conditions. Even a small pool, say six feet across, could grow several plants! If interested I could advise you on some compact growers which are excellent bloomers!

Yes, the world is forever a changing place, and most often it's NOT for the better! I really dislike having to cross the border and being stared down by those border patrol attendants! I wish we could freely trade plant material between the two countries ... but, I do understand the reasons set in place.

The oil sands are located in the northern part of my province, it's a vast area estimated to contain ENORMOUS reserves of crude oil. The oil is contained within the sand, thus is called oil sands. Alberta is said to have the second largest crude oil reserves in the world. YES, they use trucks which are absolutely HUGE! .. I think I heard that the tires can be up to 12 ft high!


Hi Calvin,

In cold winter areas such as ours, hardy water lilies go completely dormant and lose all their foliage. Light is of NO benefit during their winter rest. Most importantly is keeping them in a cool frost free place .. and very WET !

You really must try one OR two! ... they are so very rewarding!

Terry

Twrosz - Alberta, Zone "3"
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 09:46 am:   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Terry,

I had written a long epistle and then the server decided that I was times out or something. So I hadn't returned to rewrite it!

I have other fish ponds to sink the lilies into. Just the other day though I tied a lily rootstock to a stone with a rubberband and tossed it in the irrigation pond. I'm experimenting.

I have another one I'll pot up and put in the pond.

I have arrow root come up every year, yellow flag iris, spike rush, more creeping jenny that I planted on teh shore line one year.
Plus there are some baby fish of some sort swimming in the irrigation pond now. Don't know if they are baby blue gill or what.

Also I spotted a white, I believe goldfish that might have slipped out of one of my rubber maid tanks that is actually sitting in the ditch to keep it cool while it was very hot in Boise. I was away so my husband moved it there.

I had some very nice baby koi in the tank and didn't want to lose them to heat. I've been separating some of my koi just so that if something goes wrong I haven't killed all my koi in one pond.

There are baby goldfish in with the baby koi and sometimes I will refresh the water in the tank by filling it up from our well. Sometimes I'm distracted and it overflows. I can see how a fish could go over board if they followed the flow of the water and then end up in the ditch water that would take them to the irrigation pond.

Don't know for sure the white fish is a gold fish, we'll know more as the season continues and the irrigation water ends and the fish has gotten bigger. Then we can catch them.

Also, in the pond is a garter snake, that is probably eating baby fish or what ever they like that grows in ponds. There is also my son and I think a big pollywog. When I walk along the edge of the pond I hear a splash then a critter swimming away into the deeper part of the pond and bury itself in the silt. It looks like a pollywog. It has larger body and a tail like one, and not like a fish.

Otherwise besides these critters and other smaller ones, this pond keeps me entertained and always brings out the kid in me when I use to explore any natural streams, creeks, and ponds.

Karalyn Idaho Zone 6

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