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This was my montana Majorie. I had it for abt 12 years.
My first book about clematis was written by Brian Davis and about montana's he wrote
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Normally requires no pruning until five years after planting and then can be heavily reduced after flowering. Quickly rejuvenates itself, giving a better display of foliage in the following season and good flowering performance in the following spring.
This treatment should be repeated every four of five year.
So i did normally after six years for a year later did not matter I thought.
Two years ago when I went to America it was time to prune again but you know that I did not came home.
This year it must be but my Majorie had leaves, flowerbuds and now got troubles thanks to the lately frost. The other montanas
are more sheltered and have no troubles. Only also a white montana.
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I am thinking to cut one stem to the ground and the others till 1.70
So I have two changes
What are you thinking about

Roelie - Overijssel, Zone "Holland"
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Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 12:37 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Your Marjorie was such a lovely clematis Roelie! Hope it'll come back!

I read somewhere that also in England after some cold winters or late cold weather, the montanas don't flower. Also here in Sweden we had much damage on our plants done by the late hard frost! Hope that you'll have many flowers on your other clematis!

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My experience with pruning very hard of a montana is very bad, the plant died.

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Roelie, beautiful early photos of Marjorie. What a shame for this to happen but next year will be better I'm sure. As long as you leave some strong stems it should be ok. With montanas I never prune too far into old wood. I just trim back all the twiggy bits and unwanted growth and it soon bounces back.

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Ton_hannink wrote on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 12:55 pm:

My experience with pruning very hard of a montana is very bad, the plant died



Very interesting Ton! I pruned one of my montanas very much and it died....

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But now there is not much change so to-morrow I will read the reactions and take a saw and will be very carefull and try for now it looks terrible. I wait what Peer will say if he expect sleeping buds. underground

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Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 05:20 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

How very disappointing! ... I'm sorry to see your plant as such. Gardening is always a challenge no matter where we live!


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Roelie wrote on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 01:36 pm:

I wait what Peer will say if he expect sleeping buds. underground


My own 'Marjorie' died back to the base, not from hard pruning but from a wet winter (and may be old age) Montanas do rarely shoot from the base. (she did send a shoot up from the base, so it is possible, but none of my other dead montanas (4)have done this)
Hard pruning after years of no pruning are not recommend (not for any plant) regularly pruning keep the plants juvenile and therefor it will easier recover.
My recommendation for Montanas is regular pruning after flowering: (this is from my "How to grow Clematis successfully" can be downloaded from my website PDF format)
When growing montanas on fences and other places where you don't want an crow's nest. My recommendation for pruning is; when the Clematis have finished its main flowering they are pruned back to 1 or 2 pair of buds on the side shoot (not the main framework) much in the same way grape vines are pruned, this will give you a strong framework and a nice plant. When they are pruned give a good feed, compost, manure or fertilizer. Little corrective snipping will be needed on the strongest growing ones, and last tie the vines to the support, so they not blow down.
Pruning in on old wood is always risky, so don't do it if you not are prepared to take the risk!

Peer_nz - Taranaki, West Coast North Island NZ, Zone "USDA zone 9"

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