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Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 10:45 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Today I was surprised by the number of stems on emerging plants as well as by the different stages of growth.
Took some photos, as this is an unusually advanced spring for me in Southern Ontario...but with frost forecast for Tuesday and Wednesday.
Some slow starters:
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Cross your fingers for me that the 26F temperatures do no harm!!!

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Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 11:33 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Do you remember where you bought your garden-ring that is around the Yukikomachi in your picture?

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Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 11:45 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes, I bought it on sale last year from Belgian Nurseries, outside of Kitchener. (Breslau) I believe it was from China. There were only 2 left, I bought both.

Many years ago I found some large iron tomato cages that work well. They are now out of business.

It seems a constant hassle trying to find functional obelisks that are tall and strong enough and which look good together.

I also wish someone would come up with inexpensive but handsome protective cages to prevent rabbit damage. Dream on...

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Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 11:54 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I was hoping you would have said Canadian Tire or WalMart....

Clematis supports are REALLY HARD to come by here---I have had to improvise by making many of my own, but they are invariably too weak---I am still using crappy normal tomato cages (and they are absolutely not strong enough for even upright, wimpy species)!!!

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Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 12:17 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Gardenbug wrote on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 10:45 am:

Cross your fingers for me that the 26F temperatures do no harm!!!



Great signs of growth there, Marie. Is it possible to protect a few of the more exposed ones?

Gardenbug wrote on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 11:45 am:

It seems a constant hassle trying to find functional obelisks that are tall and strong enough and which look good together.



Similar problem here. Eventually I found a place in Germany that sells wonderful well-made, strong and attractive obelisks to suit a number of situations. I believe they can deliver to the US but not sure about Canada. They are expensive but worth it.

www.classic-garden-elements.com

I have obelisks I and II in their catalog.

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Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 12:28 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm investigating a fellow who lives about an hour away who is willing to make some for me. All I want is strong, tall and simple. Half the ones in the shops don't even have the parts to insert in the ground! They are only "decorative", ie USELESS!

One thing that works for me is an old ladder I found in our barn. We repaired it a bit and then nailed it permanently to the side of the barn. Clematis weave their way through it and it can't fall down. Trouble is, old ladders are now expensive antiques in the markets...so I can't find more.

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Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 02:05 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You have a really nice selection of clematis , and I suppose these are just the tip of the iceberg. Do you have a good local nursery or do you buy mail order?
I hope the frost doesn't harm them.

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Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 02:11 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have bought clematis for years across Ontario, though my tastes have changed. I have also received some as gifts, as well as ordered others by mail. Sometimes something is so special that I hunt it down for ages! I've also grown a few from seed.
Nurseries have come and gone since I began this addiction. Even our home has changed location.

Thank you for warm weather thoughts!

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Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 05:02 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have never even heard of these names~
You just keep going~:)

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Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 07:12 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Monique wrote on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 05:02 pm:

have never even heard of these names~
You just keep going~:)
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Ha! Me neither Monique!

Every single vining plant I have - 10 clems, three grapevines, a huge Boston Ivy - was eaten right to ground level by mice, or voles, or moles, or rabbits, or whatever rodents there are around here. And they had my Diablo Ninebark for dessert! But so far every single one has sprouted. I too am amazed at the difference in emergence. Some of mine are already about two feet tall, some are just teensy little buds coming out of the ground. The only one I am concerned about now is my Integrfolia (I forget the name just now, but it's blue and Greg has one too), which did poorly in it's present location last summer. BTW - any advice as to when I could move it?

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Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 07:27 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I moved one of mine yesterday...and it is raining nicely on it today....but I'm not sure it was the wisest time for it. In any case, it wouldn't have lived where it was, so it was worth trying.

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Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 05:26 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I remeber now - it's a Durandii. Maybe I'll move it this week. I wonder where I'll put it. Hmmm....

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Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 07:06 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I find Durandii takes a while to get going...several years. Mine is about 4 years old and is just beginning to get multiple stems. It is in lots of sun though and grows through a white peony.

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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 05:59 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Gardenbug wrote on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 07:06 pm:

I find Durandii takes a while to get going...several years.



I lost mine last year. Not sure of the cause except it may have been in too dry a spot. Really would like another one but from what you have said, I need to select carefully, preferably one with lots of stems already. Have you tried others or is that your only one?

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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 06:16 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have had others in the past..but so long ago that they were at a different home.

I bought this one with a single scrawny stem. I should have known better....

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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 06:18 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Oddly, my Durandii was strong and multi-stemmed from the start. More, in fact, than I had bargained for: it tended to overwhelm the rose it was paired with. The rose has caught up so I'm hoping they will be an equal match this year.

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Gardenfiend wrote on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 06:18 am:

my Durandii was strong and multi-stemmed from the start



I'm going to look for a good one if I can. Best if I'm able to see the plant I'm getting. Maybe in the spring fair coming up in two weeks time. If not, I will order from a supplier. Usually the suppliers I use are good, but I have been disappointed once or twice. The 'Tango' I ordered last year arrived with very little root (the soil literally fell away from it when I emptied the pot) but they gave me a replacement plant. Not a 'Tango' though because when they checked, the others were all the same.

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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 06:47 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Spring has been very warm up till now and some of my clematis have grown quite a lot. Several have flower buds...I’m very nervous for them with all these frost warnings.

On the subject of Durandii which I had now for a few years, it’s been very slow to 'take off'. It’s healthy and the few flowers are beautiful but I’m still waiting for a more significant show.

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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 07:13 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Missgarden wrote on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 06:47 pm:

I’m very nervous for them with all these frost warnings.


My yard looks like a patchwork quilt with all the different things I've covered...either in bloom or with buds. I do NOT want to lose either! After tonight we should be good at least for the next several days.

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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 07:20 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

We expect 2 nights of frost starting tonight. It makes me sick with concern for my plants...24F tonight, 26F tomorrow night. All this after high 70s. Not much I can do except build a geodesic dome over the property!~
A friend suggested I take valium and all will be well....hahaha.

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