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Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 01:32 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

...I went outside and saw this. Clematis 'Harlow Carr' twining through a rhododendron. I thought it was supposed to be non-clinging.



Here it is again.



And again.

Heathergirl - County Durham, Zone "8"
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Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 04:17 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Haha! Maybe it isn't HC! You'll find out soon no doubt.

But COTW says it is an ordinary group 3....

Gardenbug - Ontario, Zone "4/5"
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Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 06:16 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think mine is twining. It creeps through a magnolia, but I'm pretty sure it's a climber.

Mike_in_chicago - Chicago, IL, Zone "5b"
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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 01:12 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Gardenbug wrote on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 04:17 pm:

Maybe it isn't HC!



No, it definitely is. I had identifiable blooms last year and bought the plant from RHS Harlow Carr. But last year I never noticed it wrapping itself round anything.

I tied it a bit early on and trained it through the rhododendron. There's lots of growth at over a metre at present.

Mike_in_chicago wrote on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 06:16 pm:

I think mine is twining.



Curious, Mike. Maybe it needs some support but will cling with a little encouragement. Do you give it some assistance to climb into the magnolia?

Just as an add-on to this discussion, I googled this clematis and found a post about it on the gardenweb forum. Someone mentioned that their 'Alionushka' clings sometimes even though it's not supposed to either.

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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 03:44 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I find the integrifolia hybrids can grab, but only on the end of the leaf (between the leaf tip and next pair of leaves) and they do not hold very well as a bit of wind will blow them down.

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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 05:14 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jane, I'll have to check this year (it's a no show so far). Given its position against the shrub and a nearby railing, it may have just grown into it without twining and I just didn't realize it.

Mike_in_chicago - Chicago, IL, Zone "5b"
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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 05:38 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Peer_nz wrote on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 03:44 am:

they do not hold very well as a bit of wind will blow them down



Mostly 'Harlow Carr' is just scrambling and there's a lot of heavy growth so I can see how the wind could cause it to lose its grip.

Interesting though that it can cling in some way. If it had the ability to climb that the viticellas have this clematis would be even more remarkable. Maybe a challenge here for some of you talented breeders?

Heathergirl - County Durham, Zone "8"
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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 05:39 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Miguel told me his "Harlow Carr" does twine just like yours too!!...Jeanne

Jeanne - Texas, Zone " 8B I prefer to say 9 "
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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 05:44 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mike, I do hope it re-appears for you. It's worth it for its long bloom time alone. Scores 9 out of 10 from me.

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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 05:46 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jeanne wrote on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 05:39 am:

Miguel told me his "Harlow Carr" does twine just like yours too!!



Miguel? Jeanne, this is interesting news. Does he have to support it in some way or does it climb through something on its own?

Heathergirl - County Durham, Zone "8"

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