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Posted on Monday, May 05, 2008 - 07:00 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jeanne or anyone else who prunes for a second bloom ... at what point do you do it? Mine have almost finished blooming. Should I prune immediately after?

Cindym - Louisiana, Zone "8b"
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Posted on Monday, May 05, 2008 - 08:10 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Cindy,

I've never really taken advantage of my zone by pruning for a second flush, usually getting some later blooms naturally, but I am going to for sure this year. A few vines are just about done for now (believe it or not); Liberation, Claire De Lune, Beth Currie, and John Warren. As soon as they're done, I plan to cut them back by a third and then give them a good dose of rose or tomato fertilizer to see how many more blooms I can actually get with some effort.

Most of my clematis are still very young since I had to reconstruct my garden of established vines after we had a new cinder block fence put in and hope this can help them in the long run.

If I actually put enough effort into it, I'd probably be able to have continuous blooms from March to October - we'll see how motivated I am this year though

What I really need to master - I should say, get the courage to start doing - is pinch out once growth starts to encourage a more bushy plant. I just get too impatient and want to see blooms though!

I'd say, start out this year by being a little conservative and see how it goes, good luck!

Jameslb - California, Zone "9, 10, 11... "
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Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 02:12 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jameslb wrote on Monday, May 05, 2008 - 08:10 pm:

is pinch out once growth starts to encourage a more bushy plant.


if you lead the shoot horizontal you will get even more shoots and a nicer spread of them. (cut a stem give 2 new stem, leading them horizontal can easily give 5-6 new stem)

Peer_nz - Taranaki, West Coast North Island NZ, Zone "USDA zone 9"
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Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 06:35 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Yes...I hard prune mine again when the first flush of colour is gone..My Clematis "Etoille Violette" has just finished and I am going to go out today and hard prune her and give her some of my Alfalfa Tea...I can usually get 3 bloom periods from my pruning group 3's with my long growing season..I wanted to do it yesterday but it rained all day long...Jeanne

Jeanne - Texas, Zone " 8B I prefer to say 9 "
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Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 05:16 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks James and Jeanne! Can't wait to see the results.

Cindym - Louisiana, Zone "8b"
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Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 01:35 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Cindym wrote on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 05:16 pm:

Just a word of precaution, do not prune between late August and late winter as this tends to weaken the plants. And do feed well when pruning!

Peer_nz - Taranaki, West Coast North Island NZ, Zone "USDA zone 9"
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Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 02:53 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Peer_nz wrote on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 01:35 am:

do not prune between late August and late winter as this tends to weaken the plants



Is that for all zones, Peer? I thought for temperate and coastal zones it was ok. I usually prune mine in the autumn.

Heathergirl - County Durham, Zone "8"
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Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 03:03 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Heathergirl wrote on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 02:53 am:

I usually prune mine in the autumn.


Me too. In November or so.

Gardenfiend - Germany, Zone "7a"
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Posted on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 05:34 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Heathergirl wrote on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 02:53 am:

Is that for all zones, Peer? I thought for temperate and coastal zones it was ok. I usually prune mine in the autumn.

The reason for the non pruning period is with mild climate (no real winter)if pruned during this period Clematis will start grow when mild weather prevail and it will exhaust the plant and give it a poor condition (they sort of get the flu)
When you prune older wood of the plant do not have the "old and wise" info to keep it from start growing.
In some way it may be like grass, if you cut it and there come frost it stop growing, if you cut and there come rain or mild weather it will start grow(wintertime).

Peer_nz - Taranaki, West Coast North Island NZ, Zone "USDA zone 9"

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