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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:14 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No Jane sorry, wrong sex.

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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:17 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Prince Philip?Butbhe is still alive I do not believe for I thought this had pointy tepals.

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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:22 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No Sorry Roelie,

Not so much a name but a title.
Have made it too easy now.

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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:29 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Prince of Wales ?

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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:36 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes Helen, you got it

This is a photo of the label, and I have also got a print out from the garden manager there which lists every clematis they have and also exactly where they are all planted.

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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 01:38 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Susan, that was quite a find - can you tell us what garden you found it in. Will you be sending a picture to CotW?

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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 01:46 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

How exciting! Yes please tell us where you found it.

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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 02:13 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hello Paul & Jane,

I have informed CotW about it. We also went
back to the place on Sunday to take a photo of
some other clematis and discovered the label
attached to the obelisk.

CotW are away at the moment but I have
promised them a photo.

It's taken at Wollerton Old Hall, we went
there for lunch on Sunday, very nice too.

Please see my 'Alionushka' posting as I took
another there called 'Black Madonna'

'Mienie Belle' is in flower at the moment there
too, along with a lot of others.

They tell me they have never taken any cuttings of 'Black Madonna' and I suspect that
applies to 'Prince of Wales' too.

'Mienie Belle' has breeders rights on it.

Have either of you ever been to Wollerton?

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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 02:39 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Susan, I haven't been to Wollerton but have just been on to their website and taken the virtual tour. I see that their plant nursery sells a lot of plants that have been propagated in the garden. Wouldn't it be exciting if they would consider taking cuttings of these plants and then offering them for sale?

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Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 02:49 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It certainly would Jane.

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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 08:35 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Very nice find. Sure wish it was available to the public.

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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 03:15 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Tanglewood wrote on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:36 pm:

This is a photo of the label,

I think the labels looks right, but I have my doubt about the plant as it seems to light in colour to be the same cross as 'Jackmani' and lighter than the description on this "lost" Clematis hybrid.

Peer_nz - Taranaki, West Coast North Island NZ, Zone "USDA zone 9"
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 03:46 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hello Peer,

Nice to see you back, and hope that you and your wife have had a thoroughly nice time.

About 'Prince of Wales', well I don't know what to think over this one.

Maybe, if some of the clematarians who have a special interest in the large flowered clematis varieties were to see it in full flower next year it would help.

It is certainly beyond my limited knowledge of clematis, to know, one way or another.

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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 03:57 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There used to be a late large flowered plant of this name, purply with a reddish bar, one of Jackman's hybrids, but whether or not it is still available, I doubt.

Keith_treadaway - Pembrokeshire, Zone "8 - 9"
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Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 04:44 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for that Keith.

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Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 10:38 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I visited the Hall today and spent a couple of hours to meet the owners, take photos and bring samples back home.
I will put some photos on my site archive later today.

Bcollingwood - Manchester, Zone "UK"
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Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 11:42 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Glad you got there today Brian.

Look forward to seeing the photo's and of course reading your views on the said clematis.

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Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 12:58 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Sue and Paul M, photos all up now at http://www.bcollingwood.com/Archive%202008.htm

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Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 01:26 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Brian,

Photo's look lovely. Look forward to seeing your write up. Hope you enjoyed your day.

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Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 02:28 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Sue,
It was only a 120 miles round trip. It was a very interesting day. Thank you for helping me out with info. Paul has completed an article for the 2008 Journal and I will include some descriptive notes and photos from me, in it. I don't quite understand one or two things about it. But more time will have passed by then and I might have further information soon. Some more flower photos would be valuable but it will flower again next year and is a strong plant. Did you see where a vine had layered itself at two nodes? The roots from the nodes were clearly visible. The (very nice) owners say it is ok for me to go and propagate it next year so I will go and take cuttings early on in the season once growth gets under way. It was a pity I'd missed the flowers, but then again it was only due to mildew that there were no flowers right now. There were lots of seedheads but I couldn't locate any fertile seeds at all, not even a single seed in a head, nor any loose on the ground. I'll keep you informed of any developments.

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Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 02:51 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brian

Yes, I saw that a vine had layered itself at two nodes. The owners indeed are very nice and helpful and the place is beautifully kept too.

I love the hollyhocks there, they really look well with that type of property.

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