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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 07:09 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thank you for all your help.

I have took cuttings of my chinese elem and put them in a small plastic pot. I have five in there which i repotted in april.

The have grown to about 6" and i need to move them into individual pots. I think.

The leaves are quite big and stem equally.

What shall i do
Whats the next step for a 1 year old cutting

Sam

Samhurst - WN4 8QY, Zone "Chinese Elm"
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 10:20 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Sam

Yes pot up into individual pots, 4 or 5 inch will be OK. Use a John Innes type of soil, number 3 would be OK, or less expensive, mix your own, a good loam with plenty of added grit for drainage. Kath

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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 04:07 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks,

I met someone at a local garden centre who has given this up so he is going to give me some pots.

They currently just look like a stem with leaves (there leaves are larger than my other trees leaves)

I want it to be approx 8-10"

How do i control

Height(do i just keep trimming the top.
How do i create branches.
How do i keep the leaves small

Sorry if questions sound stupid. I have sent you picture of them to your email. Your comments are much appreciated.

There are 3 chinese elm at 6"
There are 2 serissa at 2-3"


Sam

Samhurst - WN4 8QY, Zone "Chinese Elm"
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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 11:12 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

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Sorry Sam this is not a very good repro of your photo, think it was because you sent it to me in 'Word' format and not as a .jpg file, but nevermind, now we can see what you mean.

The main objective now is to encourage good strong root growth, without restriction, which in turn is the first step to encourage the main stem to eventually grow into a trunk.

If you have open-ground ie a garden, plant the Chinese Elm Saplings into the garden for a few years, this is the quickest way for results.

The Serissa however is a different 'kettle-of-fish' - Still give it plenty of room to grow ie large flower pot, keep indoors at this stage, on a windowsill with plenty of light, but not direct sunlight. They do have a reputation of being 'fussy' in respect of position, draughts, over watering etc, but don't be put off, persevere

Never put saplings or small plants into a bonsai pot, you'll never achieve the end result ie good trunk, good root system etc.
Kath

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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 05:50 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi is i plant these chinese elms out side for a few years will the not be come too large . I want these to grow to about 8-10" bonsais.

How would i go about keeping the tree at this point.

What routine things would i need to do to create the bonsai form.

Where would be the best place to plant them. Would they survive the winters

Could i grow these inside all the time in larger pots.

Sam

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Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 03:26 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi again Sam,

Chinese Elms grow more profusely outside, indoors the air is too dry for them, especially during the winter months with the central heating on, and this in itself creates more problems, eg. yellowing and dropping of leaves etc.

As I've said before the best thing to do at this stage is to plant them in open ground and let them 'grow-away' for a few years. Later they can be 'dug-up' potted up, and then start to shape/prune. Yes they will survive our winters, here's one of mine in the summer and winter time Kath

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 06:08 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sam, they need to grow at full speed for the first few years in order to get the trunk thickness of a good bonsai. Yes this means they are gonna get some drastic shortening later!

Greth - South Australia, Zone "?"

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