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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 05:49 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Is this a particular variety of crab or are the fruit just hanging on because we have had little frost?
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Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 06:39 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

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Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 07:17 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It may have a name. Some crabapples have persistent fruit which remains all winter. Here it could provide something for song birds in late winter when the weather is bad and the ground frozen.

I'll ask a friend if he knows of any cultivars with fruit similar to your picture.

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Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 07:22 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Moira,

Not an expert on Apples, but crab apples do usually retain fruit into Autumn/Winter.
I am surprised the birds haven't taken some of the fruit for food.
As you say, the lack of winter weather generally and especially the amount of water in the soil has helped to retain the fruit. From the picture at least the leaf fall has happened.
Looks like you will have to collect the fruit and make a lot of Apple jams and sauces.
Is it a Crab Apple by the way? or a domestic apple like a Pippin perhaps a Downton. if it is how about making some cider?
Cheers.....

Roys - West midlands, Zone "8a"
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Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 08:00 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Roy, I have to disagree on the duration of fruit. Many crabapples do not have persistent fruit, make a mess in autumn, and attract yellow-jackets ( wasps)

Fruit of an apple is more than 2" in diameter while a crabapple is 2" diameter or less.

Carol23 - Southeastern PA, Zone "6B"
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Posted on Friday, January 25, 2008 - 06:59 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Moira,

Is your tree a crab apple or could it be something else like a sorbus/rowan, which I believe can have white/cream berries....and the fruit can be quite big.... Just a thought.

Rowans do seem to keep their berries for much of the winter.

As for the birds not eating them; the colour is probably the main factor. They always eat red berries first, followed by orange and finally white/cream, when all the others have gone..

Dee_b - West Midlands, Zone "7"
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Posted on Friday, January 25, 2008 - 07:02 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for responding.
Firstly it is not growing in my garden so I won't be starting my own cider factory. This was in Winchester down a side street coming off of the main high street. They looked like russets but smaller although I have to say larger than most crabs I have seen. A few had fallen but most as you can see were still hanging. It just looked so bizarre in the middle of January. Other crabs around here have hung on to a few but they are still red,gold,orange in colour. I have never seen a crabapple with this colour of fruit.

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Posted on Friday, January 25, 2008 - 07:07 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Dee. Definitely not a Rowan. Either apple or crabapple. Too small for most apples slightly too large for most crabs. It was the colour of them that threw me. I was wondering if they had just turned rotten on the tree because we have had so little frost to make them drop. I wish I had picked one up now to see if it was rotten but I was getting some strange looks from passersby for taking the pictures as I had to climb up on a high wall to get near enough. I must make sure next time I go to Winchester to check it out again. Very intriguing.

Growit - Hampshire, Zone "8/9"
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Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 11:13 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I would start off thinking this was a late season yellow apple that turned white-looking with frost or age or both. Crabs have the ability to stay on the tree for a long time during winter months. However, there can be so many crosses of this and that...and this may be one of them. Sounds like a knock -on- the -door- can -I- have- a -cutting situation to me. Get a nice crab for rootstock. Ask the owners for one to taste???

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Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 11:15 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

By the way, back in the interior of B.C. we had a crab apple tree with fairly large fruit the size of thos disgusting little spartans in the grocery stores that never get ripe.

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Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 01:25 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Stephie wrote on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 11:13 am:

Sounds like a knock -on- the -door- can -I- have- a -cutting situation to me. Get a nice crab for rootstock. Ask the owners for one to taste???


LOL! I intend to go back and see what it looks like in Spring and maybe have a word with the owners but it would be for curiosities sake not for a cutting. I have no room for a tree in my garden. Sounds like you would like one though!

Growit - Hampshire, Zone "8/9"
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Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 10:38 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Among the crabapples in our yard, the so-called "rosy-bloom" crabs hold their fruit until spring - they are currently heavily laden.
'Royalty' loses most of its fruit through the fall.

Abgardeneer - Alberta, Zone "3"
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Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 10:43 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

oh its a crab alright,looks very pale in colour tho. The birds should appreciate it.

Treelover - County Durham,UK, Zone "8/9"
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Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 06:49 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

how do I get saplings from my existing crabapple tree?

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