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Fbonsailady
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 08:18 am: |   
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As far as I know Wanda this is the true Sour Grapes. Trouble is in this day and age some of them do get mis-named with so many varieities, can even happen accidently at Nurseries, people take out the label to have a look and put it back in another pot, have seen this many times myself when visiting nurseries
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Kath. zone 8b UK |
Wanda
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 09:42 am: |
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Kath, I work in a nursery as a buyer & section manager. It must be mis-named or perhaps the growers made up the name, but each time I order 'Sour Grapes', I get the wine colored one. This is puzzling to me. I will have to talk to the vendors and investigate further. I would love to get hold of the one you've shown. I wish I had a picture to show you, maybe you could give me another name for it, but I pulled mine out several years ago to make room for something else. Darn!
wanda CA Zone 9 |
Fbonsailady
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 10:55 am: |
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Hi again Wanda, before answering your question, thought I'll read up on the history of Sour Grapes. Glad I did because now I've learnt something new. The picture above is accepted as being the 'true' Sour Grapes introduced in the 1930's. Apparently there was a second one introduced in the 1950's, Quote:- by Margery Fish in Somerset UK. by the name of P.gordoni(syn.P.diffusus 'Sour Grapes).Since P.gordoni is now P. Glaber, and P.diffusus is P. serrulatus, the two have never at any time been considered synonymous. Colour - green in bud maturing to strong purple/dark violet bicolour -end Quote.
Well how about that Wanda - talk about making things confusing!!!!!!
Kath. zone 8b UK |
Pink
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 03:11 pm: |
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WOW, what a show Kath. I tried a couple of Husker's Red this year and hope I have them next year.
FYI Julie. I have one that has made it here in zone 4 for several years. The label only lists it as Beardstongue-Penstemon-strictus. The color is similar to Kath's Snoopy. You will always find a bee or two on them.
Meg
Pink ND Zone 4 |
Fbonsailady
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 03:21 am: |
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Thanks again everyone for all your comments, if you need any advise about growing these beautiful plants please ask and I will do my best to help
Kath. zone 8b UK |
Phyllis66
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:25 am: |
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Kath: Great photos also a great lesson on Penstemons...I have many, I like them as when I cut them back I just stick the cuttings in the ground where I want them , most of them take,then new plants galore..Very lovely plants.....
phyllis66 zone 9 So.California |
Wanda
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 10:09 am: |
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Don't you just love these name games. That makes things clear as mud! LOL
Thanks for checking that out, Kath. I looked in a Penstemon book (the Gardener's Guide series) that I have, and sure enough, the 'Sour Grapes' they picture looks like your picture.
wanda CA Zone 9 |
Fbonsailady
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 10:22 am: |
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Thanks Phyllis and Wanda, How lovely to live in California, where you can grow almost anything at anytime.
Yes some of the names - what do I say - drive you potty - nevermind we know what we mean, don't we!!!!!!!!!
Kath. zone 8b UK |
Gardenbug
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 07:31 pm: |
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So you buddies have been lurking over in the penstemmon thread! Well glad I found you.
I am one of those who love Husker's Red, mainly for the foliage, but I do love the pale flowers contrasting with the dark leaves. I have this growing in 2 areas of my garden.
I also have seen Sour Grapes at our local nursery, but why they sell it I cannot say since it is for zone 6 or 7 and we are USDA zone 4! It is the pale colored one, not the deep purple.
I am trying a few other hardy ones this year and hope they make it to photo time next season! I have seen some true beauties in London, but those do not survive our climate.
I grow the penstemmon/digitalis as well. It is beautiful in my opinion! It was sold to me by our only "native owned native plant nursery", which is a fine place to visit indeed.
gardenbug Ontario, Canada zone 5b, USDA zone 4 |
Monique
| | Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 12:01 pm: |
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I am so anxious for spring..I received 3 big clumps of white penstemmon and am hoping they are snowstorm..I am a bit worried about the earlier comment that division is not the best form of propagation but will keep my fingers crossed.I have 2 other varieties ans will look forward to finding the tags to tell you what they are.Mary.. as in beautiful photos/lovely poetry/purple dress Mary was the first one I remember posting it and I loved it..Thanks you for all tehse tips and photographs.
Monique Québec Zone 5 |
Bobkl
| | Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 05:16 pm: |
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WELL PENSTEMON LADY I SEE U FOUND SOME FLOWER BUDDIES
HERE IN USA there is at least 250 diferent kinds of penstemons mostly in western half of u.s.
Bob MN Zone 4 |
Bloomorselse
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 07:59 pm: |
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Kath, these are beautiful. First time to this category. I just bought a small one, put they are a mixed variety, so not sure what color I will get. Can you buy these in seed packages? I love the Osprey and Sour Grapes ones.
Joan B New Brunswick Canada Zone 4b |
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