Who has 'Sprinkles' ????

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Author Message   Suzymac  My Favorite Photo My Garden Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 07:38 am EST :    While browsing the Park Seeds site which Scilla posted for clematis, I saw a new clematis named 'Sprinkles' which is described this way by Park's Seed: "The blooms measure 4 to 6 inches wide, with a symmetrical starry shape and bright pink color accented by a white stripe down the center of each petal and a tiny yellow eye." I was immediately struck by the resemblance in Park's picture of 'Sprinkles' to a clematis I purchased last summer, }}which was mistakenly labeled Ernest Markham. I have never seen "Sprinkles' in person, so perhaps someone here owns one, and can tell me if this flower looks like their 'Sprinkles'. Here is Park's picture: http://www.parkseed.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StoreCatalogDisplay?storeId=10101&catalogId=10066&langId=-1&mainPage=prod2working&ItemId=49563 And here is my unknown. Is this anything like Sprinkles ? and: Suzy} Suzymac - Massachusetts, Zone "6-7"   Ton_hannink  My Garden Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 08:08 am EST :    We have 'Sprinkles'in Holland. I have made a picture. 'Sprinkles' Ton_hannink The Netherlands   Suzymac  My Favorite Photo My Garden Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 08:18 am EST :    Ton, thank you. Have you seen any blooms on your Sprinkles with white stripes during the season ? My plant had the most white striping in it's early bloom with little or no striping in it's last few flowers. I look forward to seeing it next spring. The tepal shape and anthers on mine look just like yours, but yours has no visible white 'bar'. Suzy Suzymac - Massachusetts, Zone "6-7"   Ton_hannink  My Garden Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 08:24 am EST :    I do not have the plant but I have made pictures for the nursery. The second bloom has some white. It was a too sunny day for pictures. Ton_hannink The Netherlands   Frostycurls  My Weather My Garden Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 11:32 am EST :    Suzy you can also see Sprinkles on this website which were the ones who introduced Sprinkles. http://www.springvalleygreenhouse.com/Pages/Clematis/Red/Red-2.htm This is a picture of mine (not a very good picture). Penny Oregon Zone 7   Scilla  Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 12:00 pm EST :    Here is mine from Spring Valley -- she is softly lovely and truly is sprinkled with tiny snowdrops. Scilla - Washington State, Zone "5"   Scilla  Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 12:04 pm EST :    Suzy, mine has bloomed for two years now and has never bloomed as dark as your mystery, and your mystery doesn't seem to have the actual sprinkling of white that my Sprinkles has. I understand your wanting to know the name of yours, but yeeks, it is such a rare and lovely one, I'd buy a Sprinkles from Park or Spring Valley, plant it nearby, and compare the two. Scilla - Washington State, Zone "5"   Suzymac  My Favorite Photo My Garden Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 12:42 pm EST :    Good idea Scilla. The Spring Valley picture isn't very good, so seeing all of yours helps. I will post next season's blooms and I may or may not be any closer to figuring this all out. Mine seems to have much more of a white bar than any of yours, but this was it's very first year in the ground. It's still a mystery. Thank you ALL for the photos ! Suzy Suzymac - Massachusetts, Zone "6-7"   Karalyn  My Weather Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 01:32 pm EST :    SuzyMac, Whatever you have, it is gorgeous! Love that white stripe! Penny--What is your clematis climbing through? Karalyn Idaho Zone 6   Janet43945  My Weather Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 05:12 pm EST :    This is my Sprinkles ,planted last spring. Suzy I love the dark color on yours it is beautiful. Janet Ohio Zone 5   Timo  Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 10:40 pm EST :    This one has similar stripes, but less wavy tepals: The photos were taken last summer in Holland in one of the many nurseries the IClS visited. It was labelled as 'Firefly'. Timo   Frostycurls  My Weather My Garden Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 05:22 am EST :    Karalyn it's climbing through a berberis. Penny Oregon Zone 7   Gardenbug  Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 06:38 am EST :    Firefly is lovely. Gardenbug Ontario zone 4b/5b   Karalyn  My Weather Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 07:55 am EST :    Penny, Now I see it, but is the stem with larger leaves a sedum? Karalyn Idaho Zone 6   Spider  Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 10:30 am EST :    I had Sprinkles but the antibiotics the doctor gave me soon cleared it up. Spider - North Lincolnshire, Zone "UK"   Gardenbug  Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 11:17 am EST :    Ian!!!! Been drinking beer again? Gardenbug Ontario zone 4b/5b   Suzymac  My Favorite Photo My Garden Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 01:12 pm EST :    WoW Timo, that Firefly is gorgeous. I have never seen a dark pink with that kind of marking. I'm sure it's not sold in the U.S. yet. We don't usually get anything new (clematis) here until the rest of the world has had it for several years. It's sad to wait, so now I'm going to grow my own new hybrids! FUN ! Suzy Suzymac - Massachusetts, Zone "6-7"   Diveanddig  My Garden Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 04:06 pm EST :    I purchased three Sprinkles from Spring Valley last spring. They were in 2 1/2 inch pots, but grew vigorously all summer long. This is a NY born group three clematis. I expect good things from them next summer, but do not expect the all summer blooming Parks advertises. We will see. Bill Bird - Westchester Co., NY - Zone 6   Suzymac  My Favorite Photo My Garden Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 04:48 pm EST :    Thank you all. I am beginning to think that I may have had a "sport" of Ernest Markham because another vine next to this striped vine looked more like Ernest Markham and it bloomed much later. Now, the question is, how does one prune a possible "sport" vine ? Do I NOT prune this plant at all ? Help on pruning a sport PLEASE ? Many Thanks ! Suzy Suzymac - Massachusetts, Zone "6-7"   Katie  Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 07:12 am EST :    Suzy, Personally I would treat it like a 2. If it ends up with all the blooms on top then you know it is a 3. So I was out in my clematis propagation yard yesterday and lo and behold there was a small Sprinkles! I had forgotten that I had ordered it. Is that a sign of too many clematis or what?! Katie Northern California Zone 8   Diveanddig  My Garden Posted on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 08:14 pm EST :    Suzy, If that is indeed a sport, it should be propagated from cuttings, and/or layering. That is the only way to perpetuate it. I love the stripes. Great contrast. Don't let it disappear. Bill Bird - Westchester Co., NY - Zone 6   Suzymac  My Favorite Photo My Garden Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 06:07 am EST :    Bill, I'm not sure what to do. If this was a "sport", should I NOT prune the vine at all and wait for the sport to re-appear, then try to make cuttings ? I need to identify the vine which carried this flower. I should have marked it, but at the time, the idea of a sport hadn't even crossed my mind, now I'm thinking it may have been, since later flowers on a vine from the same plant seemed to be more like "Ernest". What would you do now ? I don't want to lose it, either. Should I do nothing and wait ? By the way, since I know nothing about "sports", here is another question: Would a "sport" vine come from the ground only or can it be a lateral vine from a main stem ? The answer can help me decide on whether to prune lightly or not at all. I'm afraid of cutting it off and losing it forever. Thanks ! Suzy Suzymac - Massachusetts, Zone "6-7"   Diveanddig  My Garden Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 06:43 am EST :    A sport is merely a mutation that usually takes place anywhere on the plant. Most dwarf conifers have been produced by saving sports. Many double clematis are sports also. It would be best not to prune the vine and see if the suspect flower reappears. This presents a problem with cuttings since flowering wood will not usually produce a good cutting. One can prune the sport lightly after flowering to encourage new growth and then a successful cutting can be made when it becomes semi ripe. You can also layer it I am not sure if a sport can appear from under the ground. They are most commonly found above ground. Sometimes bare root clematis can have two plants stuck together when the grower plants them in pots for growing on. In this case you might have two different plants emerging from the ground. You will have to do some detective work. Hope you have a great sport in your garden and that it reappears next summer. Bill Bird - Westchester Co., NY - Zone 6   Suzymac  My Favorite Photo My Garden Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 07:02 am EST :    Gosh Bill, you're a wealth of information and I just love learning about all this! Thank you so much, you've helped me greatly. I'll do as you suggested and leave the plant alone at pruning time. Now, the wait comes. My curiosity as to a possible sport will be killing me, lol. I sure hope it re-appears ! By the way, what did you do with that sport you had on your Florida Sieboldi ? I remembered that from 2-3 years ago ! Suzy Suzymac - Massachusetts, Zone "6-7"

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