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Johninoz
My Time
| | Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 11:19 am EST : |   
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Since seeing this one here I've had to add it to my list. Not even sure if it's available here yet but I can be patient. My question is what pruning group is it? COTW doesn't say and I can't find it in any of my books.
Johninoz Victoria, Australia Zone 4 |
Frostycurls
My Garden Journal
My Weather
My Garden
| | Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 12:25 pm EST : |
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This is what it says in Clematis International 2004
Flowers: June-September/October
Hardy: Zones 4-9
Height: 3 meters
Aspect: Any
Pruning Group: 3-Each February/March remove all stems to just above base of previous season's stems.
I know the months listed are wrong for you but I hope this will help. I bought it this spring and already I like it very much.
Penny Oregon Zone 7 |
Suzymac
My Favorite Photo
My Garden
| | Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 01:02 pm EST : |
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My tiny Harlow Carr died to the ground immediately after planting, but the roots were busy growing, it seems. In the last 2 weeks, he has sent up several 6 foot stems. I would love some late blooms. This is looking to be a vigorous plant, now that it has established it's roots. I love group 3's here.
Suzy
Suzymac Massachusetts zone 6-A |
Johninoz
My Time
| | Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 06:59 pm EST : |
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I was guessing group 3, not knowing got me wondering if a general rule of "if in doubt treat as group 3 especially for the first season or two" works or not?
Johninoz Victoria, Australia Zone 4 |
Kvilledude
My Weather
| | Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 07:09 pm EST : |
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John, I contacted the Evison nursery early in the season and was told that the only one that gets treated as a definite type 2 is Hyde Hall. Rosemoor and Harlow Carr are definitely type 3s and Wisley can be treated as a type 2 or 3.
My Harlow Carr is blooming again for the fourth time, Rosemoor for the third time, and Wisley has bloomed only once.
Kvilledude
- North Carolina,
Zone "7A"
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Suzymac
My Favorite Photo
My Garden
| | Posted on Monday, September 13, 2004 - 02:07 pm EST : |
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John, to answer your other 'general' question about pruning unknown clematis, I would treat these all as group 2's at first. Several years ago, a friend brought me about 15 unlabeled clematis as a gift. I had to treat these all as group 2's the first year until I could identify them. The reasoning on this is that if my plants are possibly group 2's and I prune them all the way back as a group 3's, I won't have any flowers to make an identification that season. Group 3's will bloom no matter what, but pruning group 2's to the ground would likely cause 'no blooms' since 2's bloom only on old wood. Harlow Carr is a group 3, as Miguel stated, but when you have other 'unknowns' it is wise to treat these as group 2's for the first season.
Suzy
Suzymac Massachusetts zone 6-A |
Johninoz
My Time
| | Posted on Monday, September 13, 2004 - 07:45 pm EST : |
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Suzy, thanks for clearing something up. I was thinking that group 2's have early flowers on old wood and others later. I tend to prune hard the first time after planting all of them to encourage more stems (as well as planting deep). Sacrificing some flowers for a well established plant is something I can do (with gritted teeth) but I'd hate to not get any at all!
Johninoz Victoria, Australia Zone 4 |
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