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Tim
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 12:32 pm EST : |   
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The plant in photo number 1 was collected last year by The Cyclamen Society whilst on a field trip.
Photo number 2 is of one of my own plants.
Photo 3 is another plant collected on a Cyclamen Society field trip.
Photo 4 shows C. mirabile 'Tile Barn Anne'(with the pewter leaves - the photos doesn't do the plant justice at all), and C. mirabile 'Tile Barn Nicholas', with the Christmas tree pattern.
I've seen thousands of mirabile in the wild, and yet have never seen anything like 'Tile Barn Anne' in the wild. It would seem that for one reason or another, they just don't survive.
Last photo is of a plant collected on the Cyclamen Society field trip I went on back in 2003. Particularly nice to have nearly all of those plants (nearly 60 plants) in my care for the time being, as it was my job to extract all of the tubers from the ground.
Tim
- Cambridgeshire,
Zone "7 "
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Gardenbug
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 12:53 pm EST : |
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Very enjoyable postings today Tim! Thank you!
Gardenbug
- Ontario,
Zone "4/5"
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Galanthophile
My Favorite Photo
My Garden
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 02:08 pm EST : |
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These are wonderful. So they aren't yours permanently then?
Galanthophile
- Ann (Northern England),
Zone "8"
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Wilsonae_cyclamen
My Weather
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 04:49 pm EST : |
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So Tim,
Do you have any idea what that cyclamen in the last pix is and will seeds be available next year 2006?
wilsonae cyclamen
Wilsonae_cyclamen
- New York,
Zone "6 (?)"
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Tim
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 01:04 pm EST : |
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No Ann, some of the plants here aren't mine permanently. There are around 150 plants, mostly mirabile and intaminatum, with a few hederifolium, creticum and persicum thrown in for good luck.
The plants will stay here until they have settled in, and then most will be farmed out to Cyclamen Society members who wish to have them in their collection (on loan of course, and in much smaller quantities). The plants in photos 2 & 4 above are mine, the rest are plants collected by the Cyclamen Society.
Wilson, the plant in photo number 5 is C. mirabile, and is a Cyclamen Society collected plant, so all seed from it will go into the Society distribution scheme.
Tim
- Cambridgeshire,
Zone "7 "
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Terryk
My Weather
My Garden
My Time
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 07:47 pm EST : |
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They are all wonderful Tim. The Cyclamen Society choose well when they entrusted these plants to you for care. I know you will keep them in top form.
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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David_b
My Weather
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 12:43 pm EST : |
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Hi Tim! (I sent you an email back, did you get it?). This is such a wonderful species. I love the form with the all pewter/silver leaves (is that TB Ann?). I think this is my favorite of the fall bloomers. Why I even have a couple of plants that survived a summer of neglect and are in good leaf and flower. It is good that some potted cyclamen can survive on neglect.........
David Michigan zone 5b-6a |
Terryk
My Weather
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My Time
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 12:48 pm EST : |
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David_b welcome back! It has been so long since we have seen you in gb. Glad your cyclamen survived. Hope we see you more often here and in the hellebore forum.
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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Tim
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 01:43 pm EST : |
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Hi David,
I did get your email, and promise to PM you in the next day or two. I've been very shoddy responding to email over the last week or two. Getting up at 4-20am to get ready for work has meant that all I have planned for each evening becomes a "do it tomorrow" task! Apologies, David - I will send that PM.
That silver/pewter leaved mirabile is Tile barn Anne - nice isn't it? I was down at Tile Barn the other weekend (photos elsewhere in this forum), and mentioned you to Peter, who remembers you well, no doubt because of your enthusiasm.
Great to see you back in the forums, David. I had a wheat beer in The Crown for you on Saturday night...
Tim
- Cambridgeshire,
Zone "7 "
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Jgwoodard
| | Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 01:52 am EST : |
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Tim wrote on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 12:43 pm:Getting up at 4-20am to get ready for work
Jgwoodard
- TN,
Zone "6b"
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Matthias
| | Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 02:18 am EST : |
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Tim, that slightly pink colouration over the silvery parts of mirabile leaves: Is it caused by tiny red hairs (trichomes) containing high concentrations of anthocyanin?
I have observed such red hairs in some young C. hederifolium leaves giving the silvery parts of the leaves a slightly pink hue.
These hairs and the pink colouration are lost as the leaves mature.
Matthias
- Southern Germany,
Zone "7"
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Matthias
| | Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 07:23 am EST : |
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This photo may illustrate the magenta red hairs on the surface of some young C. hederifolium leaves.
Matthias
- Southern Germany,
Zone "7"
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Terryk
My Weather
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My Time
| | Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 08:17 am EST : |
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That's interesting Matthias, so far I have not seen anything like that on any of my hederifolium.
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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Tim
| | Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 02:49 am EST : |
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That's right, Matthias - the red colouration is caused by the tiny red hairs. This trait isn't present in all plants of C. mirabile though. It is a popular trait though, and growers do select for it.
It can be seen on some C. intaminatum leaves too. Was that hederifolium photo taken in the wild, Matthias? It's not a particularly common thing to see on hederifolium, Terry, so you might have to grow a few more to raise your chances of seeing it on one of your own plants...
I know, Joseph... getting up at that time of the morning is almost criminal. But, needs must and all that.
Tim
- Cambridgeshire,
Zone "7 "
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Terryk
My Weather
My Garden
My Time
| | Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 05:55 am EST : |
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Tim wrote on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 01:49 am:Terry, so you might have to grow a few more to raise your chances of seeing it on one of your own plants...
When I retire Tim, I will become known as the cyclamen nut of Wood Street. Till then, we have to try to keep things under control.
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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Tim
| | Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 10:32 am EST : |
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Below is a photo of a C. intaminatum leaf, showing the red colouration. As the leaf ages, this will turn to silver.
Tim
- Cambridgeshire,
Zone "7 "
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Terryk
My Weather
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| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 06:34 am EST : |
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Tim, I meant to ask this question earlier on but are C. mirabile slow to come out of dormancy? I repoted some several weeks back and they still don't show any sign of growth. They did appear to be healthy-firm tubers with decent root growth. Do they like it drier or more moist, do you have any suggestions to spur them on?
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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Galanthophile
My Favorite Photo
My Garden
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 06:45 am EST : |
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Very pretty and a wonderful shape.
Galanthophile
- Ann (Northern England),
Zone "8"
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Tim
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 10:17 am EST : |
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Just keep doing whatever you are doing, Terry. I experience the same thing with young mirabile. I have trays and trays of seedling mirabile, and whilst some are emerging, others show no sign of new growth at all. I occasionally tip the gravel off to see if there is still a tuber there, and there nearly always is. Just seem some plants are slower than others. Can't say I've noticed the same thing happening on my flowering size stock plants though. I don't think it's to do with watering regime either, as it all gets done together.
Tim
- Cambridgeshire,
Zone "7 "
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Terryk
My Weather
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| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 11:34 am EST : |
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Thanks once again Tim.
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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