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Author Message   Tim  Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 10:43 am EST :    The first photo is of a very special C. mirabile flower. This plant belongs to The Cyclamen Society, and it is immediately obvious why it was collected. I have never seen striations like this on a mirabile flower. I do have some coum stock plants which show this characteristic. Second photo is of a tray of C. coum. Thought it was a nice shot as it shows off the variation in leaf pattern. These plants will, along with many more (hopefully!), be sold this coming winter. Another shot of the dark flowered C. cilicium. Last photo is of C. graecum forma Album Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "   Wilsonae_cyclamen  My Weather Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 11:50 am EST :    Tim, Please let me know when seeds for the Coum with variations of leaf patterns, dark flowered Cilicium and Graecum are available -providing they set seeds - smile! Will you be separating seed packets into individual species in 2006 as planned or will they also be available in mix bags of Coum, Mirabile, Purpurascens, etc? wilsonae cyclamen Wilsonae_cyclamen - New York, Zone "6 (?)"   Wilsonae_cyclamen  My Weather Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 11:57 am EST :    Tim, Please let me know when seeds are available for the Coum with varied leaf patterns, dark colored Cilicium and Graecum are available? Will seeds be separated into individual species for 2006 or will they still be available as mixed bags of Coum, Graecum, Purpurascens, etc. Thank you and have a great day! wilsonae cyclamen Wilsonae_cyclamen - New York, Zone "6 (?)"   Wilsonae_cyclamen  My Weather Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 12:14 pm EST :    Tim, Some more questions for good measure: Can a single cyclamen flower pollinate itself or does it require a lot of other flowers to be present for pollination to take place? Is it possible to incorporate scent into say cyclamen coum Christmas Tree Leaf or any other unscented cyclamen for that matter by selective crossings? How many generations of crossings of scented and unscented cyclamen would it take (7 generations). Is it possible and would the offsprings be scented or unscented? I read somewhere, scented and unscented planted side by side, the offsprings would be unscented - they have to be separated! Is scent subjective - does scented flowers pass on this trait to their progeny? wilsonae cyclamen Wilsonae_cyclamen - New York, Zone "6 (?)"   Galanthophile  My Favorite Photo My Garden Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 12:41 pm EST :    Tim these are all superb. What a beautiful mirabile form! Those coum plants are very desirable too and I bet they will be snapped up. I love that last white graecum too - those leaves! Thanks for posting! Galanthophile - Ann (Northern England), Zone "8"   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 02:31 pm EST :    They are all wonderful, I can't decide what I like best, so I will take them all! Is the leaf pattern of C. graecum forma Album just found on that one type of c. graecum or is it something that can show up on any c. graecum? I have some which I think are C. graecum ssp. candicum just starting to send up leaves. Will they look like this or be different from them? Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Tim  Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 02:20 am EST :    All species will be separate, Wilson. I'm not a big fan of seed mixes at all. I may well sub-categorise further with leaf patterns (within individual species), although that isn't definite - it all takes time. Yes, a single flower can pollinate itself, although I have a few plants (mainly C. cilicium) which appear to need other plants of that species around them to ensure pretty much any seed set at all. I don't know if scent could be incorporated into a line of attractively patterned coum. It would take a lot of time and effort to do so, and it would only really be worthwhile doing it if you were to grow the plants in a glasshouse where that scent could be appreciated. I have some scented coum here, and the scent doesn't carry through the glasshouse at all - I have to stick my nose right into the plants. So far the progeny from my scented coum have all had scented flowers. That leaf pattern on the graecum Album Terry, isn't all that special, and can be seen on many plants of the species. Your plants will almost certainly look different, not least because of the huge range of variation within that species. I know several growers who have large glasshouses full of nothing but C. graecum. Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 06:09 am EST :    Thanks Tim, I will have to wait to see them as they mature and set more leaves. Right now most just have one leaf and the pattern I know can change a bit on each plant. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Matthias  Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 11:51 am EST :    Tim, your C. co-um are very nice; you will certainly be able to sell them all. The C. graecum leaves are fantastic! I would be very interested in seeing more graecum leaves, if you can take photos. Matthias - Southern Germany, Zone "7"   Tim  Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 09:50 am EST :    Some photos of C. graecum foliage, Matthias. And a photo of C. intaminatum. All shots taken today. Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "   Matthias  Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 12:14 pm EST :    Thanks, Tim for the photos. The leaves are really beautiful. The white veining seems to be a consistent trait. I also see this in many C. persicum derivates sold by the hundreds in local garden centers at this time of the year. Some mini forms can be very nice, but I do not like the big or super-big ones. Do you know of any projects where people have selected C. graecum for hardiness on a larger scale? If the tubers are hardy for David in his gravel garden in zone 4 it should be possible to develop types/strains that can be grown in the open garden ??? Matthias - Southern Germany, Zone "7"   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 12:36 pm EST :    Oh, this group of shots you posted has also helped me identify another seedling Tim. I was wondering about one that looks like your 4th one. At first I was thinking it was c. purpurascens but it was a bit too pointed at the end, so maybe this is what I have. I really like the leaf pattern on 3 & 4. Does it take a few years to see this pattern or does it look this way pretty much from the early stages on? Terryk - NY, Zone "6"

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