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Ton_hannink
My Garden
| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 03:16 pm EST : |   
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Check your seeds even if you have stored them at lower temperature(0-5 degrees Celsius). The following seeds germinate: atragene group, New Zealand species/cultivars, armandii etc.
Ton_hannink The Netherlands |
Katie
| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 04:23 pm EST : |
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I check my seeds several times a week but then I don't have them in plastic.
I am about ready to give up on some seeds that have been planted over 770 days. I need the space to try some fresher seed.
Katie
Katie
- Northern California,
Zone "8"
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Ton_hannink
My Garden
| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 04:40 pm EST : |
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I have some seeds which germinated after 3 years but the ratio was rather low.
Ton_hannink The Netherlands |
Suzymac
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| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 06:25 pm EST : |
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I've had lots of Texensis x Pitcheri crosses germinate this week. ( Keith's seeds ) I check weekly.
Things should be picking up soon and I will be seeing lots of new germinations as the winter progresses, I'm sure. As I recall, February is my biggest month for germinations, based on the dates most LFH's were planted. We're getting close to that time of year and I have quite a few pots in waiting. Getting anxious !
Suzy
Suzymac Massachusetts zone 6-A |
Bloomorelse
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 11:24 pm EST : |
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Glad to hear some of you are enjoying germinations. I have been so busy with my Mother being in hospital for 3 months, getting out just a couple of days before Christmas, and taking turns with my Brother and Sister staying with her at home (needs 24 hr care now), that I just got mine planted today (using the hot water soaking method). This will make for late sprouting.
Bloomorelse
- New Brunswick,
Zone "4b"
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Suzymac
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 01:06 am EST : |
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So sorry about your Mom, Joan. I'm glad you got some planting time in. It's great therapy during winter.
Suzy
Suzymac Massachusetts zone 6-A |
Malgorzata
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 07:01 am EST : |
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Can someone be kind enough to repeat the way (actual temperatures, time of soaking) of "the hot water method"? Thank you!
Malgorzata
- Fukuoka-Kyushu,
Zone "8-9"
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Suzymac
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 01:17 pm EST : |
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Malgorzata, Joan told me she soaks her seeds for 1 hour in hot tap water before planting (Not quite boiling temperature). She says she's of the opinion that she has quicker germination (perhaps a few months earlier) using this method of softening the seed cote before planting. It certainly doesn't hurt the thick seed of the large flowered types to soak them before planting.
However, I have not yet tried this method on the smaller thin-coted seeds. I may try this method on 1/2 of a few clematis species types using the hot water treatment, then 1/2 without to see if there's any 'speeding up'of the germination process in these types as well. Perhaps if Joan finds time to read this she'll chime in and let us know what her results have been with the thinner coted seeds.
Good luck planting !
Suzy
Suzymac Massachusetts zone 6-A |
Malgorzata
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 04:45 am EST : |
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Suzy, thank you!
Suzymac wrote on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 10:29 am:It certainly doesn't hurt the thick seed of the large flowered types to soak them before planting.
and if it speeds up the germination A FEW MONTHS ...I am going to try it. Thanks again!
Malgorzata
- Fukuoka-Kyushu,
Zone "8-9"
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Keith_treadaway
| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 06:01 pm EST : |
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Hi Katie,
If it is of any interest I have seen germinations today of some c. reticulata seed that I sowed on 25th. February 2002, (and last Winter had some germinate from back in 2000) so don't give up yet, unless of course you really are strapped for space. I have about 400 pots of seed quietly waiting for germination at present, so I suppose I'm used to waiting hopefully!
Keith_treadaway
- Pembrokeshire,
Zone "8 - 9"
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Suzymac
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| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 06:25 pm EST : |
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I still have about 5-6 pots of 2002 plantings not yet germinated. Almost tossed them out. I think I'll give them one more year now ! Thanks, Keith.
Suzy
Suzymac Massachusetts zone 6-A |
Bloomorelse
| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 12:02 pm EST : |
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Last year was my first time to plant clematis seeds, and I only tried the hot water method on Wada Primrose and Guernsey Queen seeds...so nothing to compare with. This year, I used the hot water soaking on all my seeds, but being late planting, the seeds would not be as fresh, so time will tell. As far as how long to soak, I would think that leaving for more than an hour or so would not benefit any more, as in my opinion, it would be while the water is warm that would do the seeds the most good...but that is only my thoughts. Good luck with your seeds. I am home from work today with an absessed tooth. I look like a lopsided chipmunk.
Bloomorelse
- New Brunswick,
Zone "4b"
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Suzymac
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| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 10:54 pm EST : |
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Hope your tooth is better by now, Joan ! I'm having the same problem, but keep putting off a visit to the Dr. Shame on me, I know.
The hot water method is undecided here. I had planted two trays of identical Pitcheri seed, one using your method and one without. Strangely, the one without treatment germinated a month earlier than the one treated with the hot water. But, some other seeds germinated quickly using your method..... so, I can't really decide if it makes a whole lot of difference yet or not, but it's still a good idea to try, I think. Hey, any method that MAY speed things up for some makes me happy.
Suzy
Suzymac Massachusetts zone 6-A |
Malgorzata
| | Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 12:09 am EST : |
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I did the soaking (1 hour & 20 hours) and no soaking at all. After 20 hours some seeds (small variation and texensis seedling's seeds) started to "soak" the water and go to the bottom. Now time will tell. Love experimenting. Thanks ladies.
Malgorzata
- Fukuoka-Kyushu,
Zone "8-9"
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Zephirine
| | Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 03:22 am EST : |
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Well, I had never planted clem seeds...until today...
As this is my first attempt, of course I have no valuable input about soaking clematis seeds.
But maybe I could have some personal ideas, derived from soaking daylily seeds :
The best results I had with germinating daylily seeds was when I soaked them in a large glass of hot tap water, just as is discussed here, and changed the hot water every now and then, during 1 to 2 days (a large glass keeps the heat a little longer). By that time, all the viable seeds had started to show a white sprout, and to sink at the bottom of the glass (except for small-flowered daylilies, which are tougher I guess).
But daylily seeds have a very hard coat, harder than with clems, so....
I have a few seeds now, that a friend sent me from her own plants...Not sure how viable they are,but I'll be experimenting too !
Put them in hot water 10 minutes ago... who knows?
Where would you store them, seeds planted now, I mean? Indoors, at 70-75°F, as I read on the backyard gardener site? I also read that they needed light after the winter chill...
Would you be patient enough to give me some advice, please? (I suppose you already have done so quite often...forgive me !)
Thanks anyway for your interesting discussions, all of you !
Zephirine France zone 8 |
Ton_hannink
My Garden
| | Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 06:18 am EST : |
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Zepherine, I do not do anything with my seeds but I have such a lot of seeds that it is not important for me when they germinate. In winter I store the seeds in the garage at about 5 degrees Celsius, there is heating in the garage. It is dark in the garage but I check every week the seeds and several times I see young sprouts. Then I place these young plants in a shadow place.
Ton_hannink The Netherlands |
Malgorzata
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 03:42 am EST : |
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I received some C.lasiandra and C.williamsii seeds at the very end of December 2005 from Takeuchi-san. I sowed them on January 20, 2006. Today, look what I found!
And lots of tiny C.williamssi sprouts! I wasn't expecting it that early. Good that I looked!
Malgorzata
- Fukuoka-Kyushu,
Zone "8-9"
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Xinxin
| | Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 05:09 am EST : |
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Felicitating you have these sproutsŁ¬very cute!
Xinxin
- beijing,
Zone "warm temperate zone"
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