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Author Message   Missgarden  My Garden Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 10:40 am EST :    One of my neighbors has this clematis growing beside her entrance. It's been there for a few year now. I know she cuts it down to within 3-4 inches of the ground in the fall every year. In spring it shoots up and is just covered in flowers. I want one!!! Missgarden - Ontario, Zone "5b"   Jeanne  My Favorite Photo My Garden Journal My Weather My Garden Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 11:06 am EST :    Missgarden wrote on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 07:52 am: I want one!!! Luiza...That makes TWO OF US!!..What a stunning white one..will check COTW and see what I come up with...GORGEOUS!..Jeanne Jeanne Texas Zone 8B   Katie  Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 01:52 pm EST :    I figured the center boss (anthers) for yellow. I took a look at COTW and couldn't come up with anything that had the same tepal shape, white tepals and center boss of yellow. The closest was Gillian Blades but the tepal shape is wrong. Huldine was not right either. Any other ideas, anyone? Katie - Northern California, Zone "8"   Katie  Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 01:55 pm EST :    Or maybe Madame Le Coultre or Marie Boisselot? Katie - Northern California, Zone "8"   Jeanne  My Favorite Photo My Garden Journal My Weather My Garden Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 02:31 pm EST :    Clematis "Henryii"? Jeanne Texas Zone 8B   Missgarden  My Garden Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 02:46 pm EST :    Jeanne, I have Henryi and it looks different. Unless my Henryi is not really Henryi :). Katie, the anthers are not really yellow, more cream colored. The dark (black) center anthers are not as pronounced when the flowers first open. I think I took this picture shortly before the flowers faded. Missgarden - Ontario, Zone "5b"   Terryk  My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 03:22 pm EST :    Maybe she will share some cuttings and you could try rooting it? That way you would know you are getting the right one and as prolific a bloomer. Terryk - NY, Zone "6"   Missgarden  My Garden Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 03:28 pm EST :    How about 'Lemon Chiffon', seems pretty close. ..and I will try cuttings. I'm sure I'll get some. The bigger challenge will be to make them grow. Missgarden - Ontario, Zone "5b"   Twrosz  My Weather Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 04:28 pm EST :    Well since it takes well to hard pruning, I also would be really interested in knowing what variety it is! Terry Twrosz - Alberta, Zone "3"   Katie  Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 06:26 pm EST :    Lemon Chiffon is certainly closer than any of the others. I can't believe she cuts it all the way back. One would think it wouldn't bloom very well as it is a type 2. Katie Katie - Northern California, Zone "8"   Jeanne  My Favorite Photo My Garden Journal My Weather My Garden Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 06:39 pm EST :    It definitely has to be a Pruning group 3 to perform like that..IMHO...Jeanne Jeanne Texas Zone 8B   Roelie  My Garden Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 07:07 pm EST :    John Huxtable perhaps ? Roelie - Overijssel, Zone "Holland"   Ingwe4  My Favorite Photo My Garden Journal My Garden Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 07:16 pm EST :    No not John Huxtable! Miss Bateman? http://davesgarden.com/pics/msanjelpie_1080126499_315.jpg http://davesgarden.com/pics/MS_Magnolia_1081137436_642.jpg Ingmarie Sweden Zone 1 USD zone 6   Missgarden  My Garden Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 09:16 pm EST :    I am also confused as all the once which I think are very close are classified as type 2. However, I know this for a fact that the plant is severly trimmed back in the fall. I'm posting one more closeup which shows several little tapels around the center. Some of the other flowers also exhibit this. Is this significant and might it help in the identification? Missgarden - Ontario, Zone "5b"   Missgarden  My Garden Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 09:33 pm EST :    To me this really looks like Guernsey Cream pictured at Bluestone perennials. http://www.bluestoneperennials.com/b/bp/scan/fi=products/st=db/sp=results_b ig/sf=code/se=CLGCP.html The picture of Guernsey Cream at 'clematis on the web' looks different then many flowers that I've seen elsewhere. Missgarden - Ontario, Zone "5b"   Twrosz  My Weather Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 09:42 pm EST :    Well, it sure looks like the photo shown in Bluestone! Twrosz - Alberta, Zone "3"   Jeanne  My Favorite Photo My Garden Journal My Weather My Garden Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 10:15 pm EST :    Marie Boisselot or Meurvouw Le Coultre http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/clemdetail.cfm?dbkey=1073 Jeanne Texas Zone 8B   Suzymac  My Favorite Photo My Weather My Garden Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 12:44 am EST :    Louisa, I'm at a loss because of the bloom time in your cold zone. The exact time of bloom would be of great help. In my zone, group 2's can't produce flowers after a winter pruning and you are even farther north than I am ! So, I would tend to rule out a group 2 type. Also, my group 3's don't bloom here until June/July so I am at a complete loss for a true guess if your friends plant blooms earlier. This flower looks like a group 2, but it doesn't at all fit the bloom time for a pruned group 2 type! Are you sure it's early spring-time blooming and not late June/July ? Exact month bloom time in your zone would greatly help in identification as to a group 2 or 3 type to narrow it down quite a bit. I don't have all that many group 3 whites, so I'll leave this to others who may know better. The winter pruning and spring-time bloom has me quite confused. It's a beauty, though ! Suzy Suzymac Massachusetts zone 6-A   Susanq  My Favorite Photo My Garden Journal My Weather My Garden My Time Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 01:56 am EST :    Luiza, here is my Guernsey Cream which I have treated like a Group 2. It blooms very early here - in May. Your neighbor cuts in down in the fall? It seems like a strange time! The rounded tepals make me think it is GC Here is Miss Bateman for comparison: SusanQ - Zone 4b-5b Wisconsin   Missgarden  My Garden Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 02:07 am EST :    I reviewed my photo albums and this was taken the first days of June. The flowers must have started blooming in the second half of May. It's a mystery then :) I promise to pay close attention to the plants growth in spring and I'll supply clearer pictures of the flowers. We'll only have to wait about 3 months :( Missgarden - Ontario, Zone "5b"   Missgarden  My Garden Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 02:19 am EST :    Definitely not Miss Bateman which has much darker anthers. Guernsey Cream seems to be the closest match as far as the flower is concerned. Probably at this point I have no option but to wait and see what happens in May. I will also try to examine up close if there's any visible buds...once the snow melts. Missgarden - Ontario, Zone "5b"   Bellarosa  Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 08:06 pm EST :    It looks like Madame van Houtte. Just a guess. Bellarosa - IL, Zone "5a"

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