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Treelover
My Favorite Photo
My Garden
| | Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 08:59 am EST : |   |
Oh I dont really have the time or the space for seeds, but soon i hope to get Katie growing some,get her interested in green things.
I want to plant a sunflower for her next spring so she can watch it grow, that would be cool!
Treelover
- County Durham,
Zone "8/9"
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Terryk
My Weather
My Garden
My Time
| | Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 11:16 am EST : | |
Yes, I understand at this point the children come first. Someday....
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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Treelover
My Favorite Photo
My Garden
| | Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 12:17 pm EST : | |
when Im old and grey....;)
Treelover
- County Durham,
Zone "8/9"
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Zephirine
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 12:30 am EST : | |
Guff, I do understand what you feel: I have been badly treated very recently on a forum where I was just trying to make new friends.
You will always find people who enjoy saying unpleasant (if not rude!) things to others!
Jealousy, possessiveness regarding their own knowledge or recognition, or shear pleasure to harm someone else, just because they were harmed themselves, maybe, but that's no excuse...
If you leave us now, you just give them more feeling of power...please don't!
Just ignore them...even feel sorry for them.
The world is bright if you know how to look at it.
Isn't a tiny flower like a cyclamen, blooming when most other plants are decaying, a perfect image for a ray of beauty in a world of sadness?
Cheer up, dear Guff!
Don't ever give up, neither against illness, nor against ill-will, which is another type of cancer. Don't let that one win either.
YOU have the eye to see beauty...they don't. Forget about them, and keep posting with us...
Aren't we here, with you?
Please...
Zephirine France zone 8 |
Tim
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 12:51 am EST : | |
Hello Guff,
I've just read your post carefully and have thought for a while whether or not to reply - obviously I have decided to do so.
Referring to you as cynical wasn't meant as an insult, just an observation about a tiny part of your personality as I see it. We all have our quirks, Guff, and one of mine is not being able to let things go. I'm going to exhibit that quirk right now... going way off topic, about the manufacturing comments you made - my day job is in civil engineering and I can absolutely assure you that not everything is made to have a specific shelf life so that repeat orders come through. If that were the case, some awfully large buildings, bridges, dams, etc. would have simply collapsed by now and I, along with my bosses would be in prison for corporate manslaughter. If any of the items we design and make do have a shelf life, it's because the material we are using has a shelf life - not because we want repeat orders, but because that's just the way it is - some material degrade in sunlight for example.
Anyway, back on topic. I don't know who emailed you to complain about the length of your post and nor is it any of my business. I don't think that Carol was saying that your post wasn't worthwhile. It obviously is, Guff. That thread is great for anyone new to cyclamen. Carol's point was that not everybody is on broadband. Those not are on dial-up and that thread would take an awfully long time to load. From my point of view, well, I couldn't care less really. I'm on broadband so I don't give it any thought.
My post regarding the use of the word tuber seems to be playing a much larger part in all of this than it needs to. You're right, Guff, I do like the correct terminology to be used. This forum has over the last year or more become one of the best sources of information about the cultivation of cyclamen on the interweb. There are other good sites, but what they lack is the info one needs right at the start of an interest in growing cyclamen - this forum has that info by the bucket. My correction wasn't meant as a slap on the wrist, just a correction, that's all. As I said in a previous post, this is one of the problems with communicating via email, etc. If we had all been sitting in a bar and I had said this during a group discussion, you probably wouldn't have batted an eyelid.
Look at the bigger picture, Guff. As someone who runs a nursery and has a considerable number of customers on GB, and who is deeply involved with the Cyclamen Society, what would I have to gain by attacking people? Nothing. Not only would I give myself a bad name, it would probably reflect badly on the Society too.
I think that a line needs to be drawn under this now, and if it's possible, perhaps the thread could remain on the forum, but closed.
Tim
- Cambridgeshire,
Zone "7 "
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Tim
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 02:12 am EST : | |
Yeah, whatever...
Tim
- Cambridgeshire,
Zone "7 "
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Gardenfiend
My Weather
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 02:24 am EST : | |
Guff, this is none of my business, but I would also like to ask you not to leave this excellent forum that has profited so much by your participation.
I don't know what was sent to you by e-mail, but I have read all the posts here and I am certain that there was no unkindness or criticism directed towards you in any of them.
Case in point: Tim's remark about the corms being in fact tubers. Everyone was getting it wrong (I'd have written corm, too) and his comment was a general one. It would be a sad loss if Tim chose not to share his knowledge with the rest of us for fear of hurting someone's feelings. As Zephirine wrote, there are people who jealously keep their superior knowledge to themselves. I'm so glad Tim isn't one of them.
There is something about internet forums that is horribly conducive to misunderstandings. That seems to be true everywhere, not just here.
But what I really wanted to say was please try to face your illness with more hope than you may be feeling at the moment. Nearly forty years ago a friend was diagnosed with and treated for the disease. Her husband couldn't deal with the possible prognosis and left her and their two children. Ten years ago he died; she attended his funeral. So it turned out she suffered more from responses to her disease than from the illness itself. She did have relapses, but she pulled through. Hodgkins really is one of the most treatable cancers. I'm sure you already knew that. I just wanted to remind you.
Gardenfiend
- Germany,
Zone "7a"
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Terryk
My Weather
My Garden
My Time
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 06:48 am EST : | |
A few years ago I suggested we start this forum to learn from each other and share knowledge. It has become a wonderful forum, I would say one of the best cyclamen forums out there. It is because of all the participation that all of us have put into it.
May I ask that this stop, it is not doing anyone any good. We are not learning anything from this. We are not enjoying the beauty of cyclamen, the main purpose of the forum.
Let's please, if for no one else, for me, stop and move on.
Terryk
- NY,
Zone "6"
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Ej
My Favorite Photo
My Weather
My Garden
My Time
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 10:23 am EST : | |
Guff as requested I deleted your posts in this thread. I have also closed this thread. This forum along with the hellebores forum have always been the pride of Gardenbuddies. This is such an unusual dialog for all participants. I hope this won't be a long winter.
Ej So.Cal. Zone 10a
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