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Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 06:56 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm curious if similar plants grow together in the wild or are just mixed in among the normal Cyclamen coum populations. I believe this plant will always be small and it looks like it will have white flowers.





Carol23 - Southeastern PA, Zone "6B"
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Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 09:06 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Very sweet looking. Did you plant it with the tuber exposed or did this do it on it's own?

Terryk - NY, Zone "6"
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Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 01:18 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carol, that plant looks to me as if it is C. coum forma Albissimum - the form of coum which has totally white flowers, no basal blotch.

I say this not only because the flower buds are white but more because the leaves are the shade of green commonly seen on forma Albissimum. I find that plain green leaf forms of coum with white flowers and the dark basal blotch have a darker green leaf.

All of my forma Albissimum look just like you plant. Only time will tell, Carol! I would like to know the outcome, so would you mind posting a photo when a flower opens?

ps - the flower bud is very stubby too, even for coum. In my experience this is another trait of forma Albissimum.

Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "
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Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 08:33 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The whole plant is stubby, Tim! I'm sure you are right. Does this trait come from just one area in the wild? Is it a weak grower or average?

Terry, I don't know if I potted it too high or if it may have fallen over at some point since the pot is tall and narrow and this happens while I'm moving flats around. I probably should add a bit more planting mix, then re-dress the top with more grani-grit grower.
There are local gardeners that show Cyclamen with most of the tuber exposed. They may believe it helps prevent rotting.

Carol23 - Southeastern PA, Zone "6B"
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Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 10:31 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

carol as it is a plant that roots from the bottom I would just add another half inch of topdressing.

As to the plant size, they come in all sizes in the wild and I think much depends on what growing conditions the tubers find themselves in. Cyclamen graecum grows often in large colonies with the tubers within inches of others and can be quite uniform but my experience of coum is that the plants are much more isolated from each other and therefore more varied in size.

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Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 03:08 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If it is coum forma Albissimum, Carol, it's likely to be a relatively weak grower. Most of these plants derive from a single collected plant which was given the name 'Golan Heights'. I have several of these and they always seem to look leggy regardless of the amount of light they get.

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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 03:14 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here is one of my C. coum forma Albissimum for comparison.

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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 03:49 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Great shot with the sun filtering through the leaves and those little buds all around the edge of the pot. If you remember, can you take a photo when it is in full bloom? The white leaves against the dark green must be very handsome.

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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 04:34 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Terry. I've had the use of a Canon EOS D30 digital SLR today - much more pleasurable to use than my Nikon. I'm more used to using an SLR ( I have two Minolta SLR cameras that I use with slide film). Unfortunately the Canon is back with its owner now.

I'll take a photo as soon as it flowers. There is a real lull here at the moment with nothing new in flower really. A few coum have already started but it will be a while before they really get going.

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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 07:21 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here's the plant in flower today. Magnification does wonders! Sometimes white flowers are difficult to get into focus. The flower reminds me of the Flying Nun's cap.



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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 08:52 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Carol,

It's 'Golan Heights' - still in my original pot. I think you need to come over for a top dressing top-up!.

Best,

J.

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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 09:04 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carol, I have the same problem with my pots, the soil just disappears! You did capture the flower well. I have such difficulty getting the details too.

John, welcome to Gardenbuddies! It's nice to have you join us.

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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 05:24 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi John and welcome. It is a pleasure to have you here. Your website is fantastic!

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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 07:40 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Galanthophile wrote on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 05:34 am:

Your website is fantastic!



Yes I agree Ann, I could spend hours in the photo gallery of John's website.

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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 09:09 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks, John, I can tip it out and place more compost in the bottom of the pot , then add a bit more Grani-grit on top. Is that what you would suggest? Now I'll give it a proper label.

By the way, you purposely plant this tuber high in the pot, right?

Carol23 - Southeastern PA, Zone "6B"
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 11:36 am EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Carol,

I always plant the tubers at the same level I find them in their seed pots. Inevitably this is at the interface between the top dressing and the compost. I plant the tubers of species that root from the sides and top maybe a little lower, but still with the top of the tuber exposed. Ditto for repandum/creticum/balearicum, which helps prevent them getting too dessicated in the summer. Everything gets at least 1/2" of grit on top. Your little guy above will probably be just fine if you top up to the rim with grit.

Best,

J.

Johnlonsdale - PA, Zone "6b"
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 12:15 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi John, good to see you posting here.

Tim - Cambridgeshire, Zone "7 "
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 12:36 pm EST :   Last Buddysize PhotosCopy highlighted text to new message Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok, I've fixed the problem and properly labeled 'Golan Heights'. Thank you for the advice, John.

Carol23 - Southeastern PA, Zone "6B"

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