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Author Message   Loretta  Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 11:02 am EST :    Anybody grow these. I have admired this plant for a while now. Is it fussy in the garden? Google pics of A. jonesii Loretta - NJ, Zone "6"   Skybird  Posted on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 10:27 pm EST :    Just checked your link and was surprised to see a couple places are calling it A. jonesii x saximontana and A. saximontana x jonesii. I've grown A. saximontana, but never heard of putting the "jonesii" in the name. If it's actually A. saximontana--common names: mountain columbine and dwarf native columbine--that you're interested in, I LOVE the stuff! It's native to Colorado, and I used to call it tundra columbine, but it doesn't really grow above timber---but it does grow naturally at high elevations, which is at least partly why it's dwarfed. It's a wonderful dwarf plant that's less than a foot tall, and has perfect, spurred, Colorado columbine blue (light lavender blue) miniature flowers. The bad news is that it's very short lived--only 2-3 years, but the good news is that as long as it blooms for you, it will easily reseed itself---and it comes true from seed. As with other columbine, it's also very easy to collect seed to plant wherever you want them or to share with others. Since it grows naturally in alpine conditions, it should do better in zones with cooler conditions. I'm not sure if this is the one you're actually asking about, because some of the pictures on you images search look like they have full size flowers. Here's a link to a picture of the one that looks closest to what I know as A.s. Picture the flowers being between 1/2 and 3/4" long, including the spurs, and a little bluer than it looks in the picture. http://magnar.aspaker.no/aqujxs.JPG Another one you might be interested in checking out is A. chrysantha. It's a WONDERFULLY FRAGRANT, full size, spurred, yellow columbine that also reseeds easily and comes true from seed. If you get a large patch of them in your yard, they'll scent the whole yard. I'm currently working on developing that patch!! lol Skybird - Colorado, Zone "z5, Denver, CO"   Tony_willis  Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 07:15 am EST :    A jonesii and saximontana are two different species. A.saximontana is common in cultivation and will grow outside with us in a raised bed. A jonesii is growable but very difficult and over here almost impossible to flower.(I realise someone will now put up a picture of an acre of it in their garden). True seed of jonesii is not usually easily available. There are numerous plants about said to be the cross. I am hoping to see jonesii in the wild in the summer in Wyoming where I understand it grows in the roadside dirt. Alplains seeds in Colorado list A.jonesii. I have bought seeds from him and the service and then the germination has been excellent. www.alplains.com/ Tony_willis - Lancashire, Zone "7"   Loretta  Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 04:45 pm EST :    Ah, somebody found my post finally! It never had a new tag on it when I made it. Skybird, I believe they are two different species that have been crossed together. However, I was looking at A. saximontana too so I appreciate your answer. It is OK that it is short lived as I've experienced that with a few other columbines hybrids. I think of them as biennials. I'm going to deadhead hopefully prolonging their lives. Tony_willis, you are the adventurer. I was going to use Rocky Mountain Rare Plants but I will check your source now. It is new to me. I figured A. jonesii was difficult otherwise it would be more available being that it is so cute with very nice foliage. It is good to know that it grows on the roadside in Wyoming though. Loretta - NJ, Zone "6"   Maggiepie  Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 02:48 pm EST :    Hi Loretta, Did you ever get the seed and if so did you get flowers? Maggiepie - New Brunswick, Zone "4b"   Loretta  Supporting Member Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 05:56 pm EST :    Hi Helen, I ended up ordering a plant from Evermay Nursery in Maine. They had another fussy plant I wanted to try which was campanula pulla. So I got both and a few more things. The plants came looking like they spent too much time in the greenhouse. Well it was the end of the season. Maybe I will get flowers in the spring if it lives for me. Loretta - NJ, Zone "6"   Maggiepie  Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 06:39 pm EST :    Well I fell in love with the plant when I clicked on the link you left and intend to get some seed. Good luck with yours. Arghhhhhhhh now you made me go look to see what campanula pulla looks like. Now I have to have that too!! I sowed some campanula collina in spring and hope to get flowers next spring/summer. Maggiepie - New Brunswick, Zone "4b"   Loretta  Supporting Member Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 10:43 pm EST :    If I am so lucky to keep it alive and get some seed, I will keep you in mind if you haven't gotten any yet. C. collina looks very nice. Good luck with those. Do you have a rock garden? Loretta - NJ, Zone "6"   Maggiepie  Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 06:05 am EST :    Thanks for the thought, I am planning on making scree garden next spring. Am finding more and more alpines that I would love to have. I am having so much fun with seeds at the moment. I reckon winter will fly by ....we can always live in hope huh? Maggiepie - New Brunswick, Zone "4b"   Loretta  Supporting Member Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 03:24 pm EST :    The cost of the seeds were very close to the cost of the plant, especially when you see the seed companies had $15 minimums. But it is nice to grow yourself. If the plant succeeds, then I can grow more but I'm not too sure it will like humid NJ and I'm am not too sure about its health going into winter. Loretta - NJ, Zone "6"   Maggiepie  Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 03:58 pm EST :    Oh I think I could find 15$ worth of various seed easily there. The Jonesii seed are 4$ for 60 seed, plus they have others I would like . My aquilegias did really well this year even first year ones flowered, did have a bit of a problem with PM on a few and leaf miners on some too. Maggiepie - New Brunswick, Zone "4b"   Skybird  Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 03:03 pm EST :    If you like alpines, Helen, here's a link to Rocky Mountain Rare Plants that you may be interested in checking out. They're only open for sales for a few months each year, and spend the rest of the year collecting seed all over the place! Their '06 catalog is still up, but without prices, and their '07 catalog should be posted soon. If you want, you can click on the link to send them an email to have them notify you when the new catalog is available online. Skybird http://www.rmrp.com/ Skybird - Colorado, Zone "z5, Denver, CO"   Maggiepie  Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 04:01 pm EST :    Hello Dee, I emailed Bob and Rebecca, a few weeks ago ,they told me the new catalogue and prices will be up Tuesday. I have a bit of a long list I suspect I will have to trim when they put the prices up. Thanks for your input they seem like very nice people. Maggiepie - New Brunswick, Zone "4b"   Skybird  Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 09:19 pm EST :    Thanks for the info that their list will be up tomorrow, Helen. I'm almost afraid to look at it! There are a whole lot of people in the world who wouldn't understand this---but---seeds are very dangerous things! ;-) We're expecting snow tomorrow and Wednesday in Denver! Spring is too far away! Skybird - Colorado, Zone "z5, Denver, CO"   Maggiepie  Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 09:31 pm EST :    We're supposed to get flurries tonight Dee, and snow tomorrow night, then Thursday and Sunday. I agree about the people who wouldn't understand, even my better half shakes his head when he sees me browsing catalogues. I think Spring is a lifetime away , but seeds help pass the time. What do you have in baggies or pots at the moment? Maggiepie - New Brunswick, Zone "4b"   Skybird  Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 11:38 pm EST :    Since I'm a flight attendant and live alone, it's really hard for me to start things. This past spring and summer I was off because of surgery I had had on my elbow, so I was able to do more than in other years. Right now the only thing I have in baggies is the seed I've collected this year and last year, and the only thing I have in pots are the many succulents I grow as houseplants---they're easy and survive almost anything--even my being gone for up to 6 days at a time! I still want to sow some of my seed directly outside yet this fall (we rarely have snowcover for more than a couple days in a row in Denver), and I'm going to need to figure out a workable system for starting things again next spring. In the meantime there are all the wonderful catalogs to try to resist! One think I absolutely must get this year, though, is the A. saximontana. Back when I worked at the garden center I gave all my A.s. seed to the grower one year when they discovered they didn't have any, and I had a promise to get a couple plants back in return, but I never did! So now I'm without either a plant or seeds, and I really love that perky little plant and want to get some going again. I have an early check-in tomorrow, so I have to go, but if you'd like some Aquilegia chrysantha seed, let me know and I'll be glad to send you some. Skybird P.S. Since I'm often gone for days at a time, it sometimes takes me a long time to reply---but I will! Skybird - Colorado, Zone "z5, Denver, CO"   Loretta  Supporting Member Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 11:50 pm EST :    There are certainly many plants that I could find at Alplains or Rocky Mountain Rare Plants but I have so many seeds, I don't know what I have anymore so I feel I have to deal with that first. Still, there is a chance I may still try the seed too since its such a small plant. I also have to think of how I would handle possibly many plants of something that might not like being in the ground here. But please post if you do order, Helen. I'd love to see it. Loretta - NJ, Zone "6"   Maggiepie  Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 07:27 am EST :    Dee, I would love some of the A Chrysantha seed, they were actually on my list. As is the jonesii and so is the A.saximontana , I hope you manage to get a plant from the grower, that's really bad they could do that to you, and you shouldn't have to chase them for it either. It must be really difficult having plants and being away for days at a time. Soaker hoses on timers? Maggiepie - New Brunswick, Zone "4b"   Maggiepie  Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 07:31 am EST :    Loretta, you want to see my order list when I do it? Maggiepie - New Brunswick, Zone "4b"   Loretta  Supporting Member Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 08:59 am EST :    Yeah, I guess I'm nosy! Just thought it would be fun. Loretta - NJ, Zone "6"

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